IDP Position Changes

[IR1]

What about Boye Mafe? He is currently listed as DE, but is listed on Ourlads as a SLB backing up Uchenna Nwosu who is listed as a LB on MFL.

In the 4th round of a rookie draft, and noticed the same thing. Want to add a d-lineman because of my veteran starters who are now linebackers, but afraid to add Mafe in case they change him to linebacker before the season.
Ugh.
-oo-

Strong rumors Seahawks will be utilizing a 3-4 base this season.

So Taylor could end up as LB? That would go along with Hunter, Bosa, and Phillips for me

[Ski mask ready]

these position changes have been a huge point of contention in 3 leagues I run that are IDP equal to offensive players. You can argue so many position changes, how guys are used etc. For me, the point is that the players NFL teams have changed their position period. I know that screws up so many peoples defenses but its legitimate scheme changes that teams make and as fantasy players I'm just telling my leagues we're sticking to what their nfl team has them designated as so we don't open a can of worms by moving around players to "true positions" or whatever you want to call it. I'm the owner of several new lbs that totally screw my defensive line, so I'm not one of the lucky ones that can say "deal with it" cause its affected my teams too. Especially a rebuild team that just had 16 picks in the first 3 rounds, heavy IDP..... Most of those guys are completely different positions then what I drafted them as. Just adding my 2 cents to the thread. Anyone looking for late round sleepers will have many options at LB this yr

[GridironGuerilla]

these position changes have been a huge point of contention in 3 leagues I run that are IDP equal top offensive players. You can argue so many position changes, how guys are used etc. ...

I tend to lean this way as well though we are going to try the pluggin next season in one IDP only league I run.

[Pullo Vision]

These 50 bazillion DEs that got relabeled LBs seem to have taken a virtually universal value hit. Several questions here-
1- Assuming the position change reflects actual usage changes (beyond a simple scheme change), is it reasonable to expect they experience a drop in 2022 production compared to 2021?
2- What are their prospects for returning to DE eligibility? Is it safest to assume that won't happen before 2023, and anything sooner is a bonus?
3- With this drop in value (and potential drop in production), do they become buy lows? Which ones would you consider going after, either for the production this year or for the future?

[lukkynumber13]

Well Reddick I would think goes back to DE at some point… they still run a 4-3 right? Barnett, Sweat, and Graham are all listed as DEs on MFL.

Otherwise, I’d say petition your league to up sack scoring so that a great OLB like Harold Landry is still a stud.

Trust me, if you get 8-10 pts for a sack, Azeez Ojulari and Jaelen Phillips are still immensely valuable.

[Kcarr]

These 50 bazillion DEs that got relabeled LBs seem to have taken a virtually universal value hit. Several questions here-
1- Assuming the position change reflects actual usage changes (beyond a simple scheme change), is it reasonable to expect they experience a drop in 2022 production compared to 2021?
2- What are their prospects for returning to DE eligibility? Is it safest to assume that won't happen before 2023, and anything sooner is a bonus?
3- With this drop in value (and potential drop in production), do they become buy lows? Which ones would you consider going after, either for the production this year or for the future?

1 - very few of these if any ate actual usage changes. There are very few instances of actual usage changes between these positions and the ones I can think of didn't lead to mfl position changes. Hassan Reddick is the big one that comes to mind, went to off ball LB, then moved to rush lb but was still designated lb, didn't change designation until he changed teams. Clay Matthew's did some back and forth but stayed at lb.
2 - most of them won't return until either they switch teams or the teams switch coaching staffs so 2023 would be best case scenario.
3 - they become a buy low if you can guess right which ones will move to a team that designates edge rushers as DE or if you can guess which teams will hire such a coach

[Kcarr]

these position changes have been a huge point of contention in 3 leagues I run that are IDP equal to offensive players. You can argue so many position changes, how guys are used etc. For me, the point is that the players NFL teams have changed their position period. I know that screws up so many peoples defenses but its legitimate scheme changes that teams make and as fantasy players I'm just telling my leagues we're sticking to what their nfl team has them designated as so we don't open a can of worms by moving around players to "true positions" or whatever you want to call it. I'm the owner of several new lbs that totally screw my defensive line, so I'm not one of the lucky ones that can say "deal with it" cause its affected my teams too. Especially a rebuild team that just had 16 picks in the first 3 rounds, heavy IDP..... Most of those guys are completely different positions then what I drafted them as. Just adding my 2 cents to the thread. Anyone looking for late round sleepers will have many options at LB this yr

But have their positions really changed or is it the way we group multiple positions does not really match reality? There are basically 5 groups of players here (yes, I know we could split them more separating off ball into middle LBs, 4-3 will lbs, 4-3 Sam lbs and then splitting up strong and weak side in the other groups, splitting DTs into 3 techs, 1 techs, nose tackles, etc. But for simplicity let's stick to 5)

There are off ball LBs, rush lbs, 4-3 DEs, 3-4 DEs, and DTs. We split then into the first 2 (off ball and rush lbs), the next 2, (4-3 DEs, 3-4 DEs) amd the last one because the names among those groups are more similar. I am saying we should split them differently, the first group by themselves, then the next 2 (rush lbs and 4-3 DEs), and then the last 2 (3-4 DEs and DTs) because although the names aren't as similar the positions themselves are.

[Forza_Azzurri]

Will there be another round of positions changes before the start of the season or are positions pretty much locked in at this point? (T Walker is currently listed as DE & I'm hoping that stays that way)

[Ice]

Scheme matters a lot in IDP.

We score DE/DT at 3 tackle and 1.5 assist
We score LB's 2/1.

A 3/4 Edge LB definitely will get more tackles based on scheme than a typical 4/3 hand in the dirt DE. It is what it is and yes it is frustrating.

Hoping MFL adds an Edge position category some day.

BTW, if you are using MFL you can change positions at a commish level. MFL doesn't always get it right.

In our a league and owner or anyone can file a complaint and we will review The NFL official player designation and provide a two week notice to the team of a position switch in season since we are a cap and contact year league.

Bottom line, we do not let the Website control the outcome since MFL provides the flexibility for the Commish to make changes.

Basically in our league we don't draft 3/4 edge players very high because while they would be great being scored as a DE but as a LB they won't compete with MLB's because the sacks are not consistent enough to make up for a 10 tackle per game MLB or WLB.

No easy solution but there is some commish control if needed.

[Ice]

Will there be another round of positions changes before the start of the season or are positions pretty much locked in at this point? (T Walker is currently listed as DE & I'm hoping that stays that way)

Unfortunately for you he is already listed as a LB on the Jags site and the coached affirmed they are going to a 3/4 scheme. MFL should re-class him.

[yellowdart2448]

I wish common sense would be used here instead of how players are listed on a depth chart. Like some sites list TJ Watt was a LB instead of DL. In what universe would Watt be considered a true LB? Same with Hunter. It's a shame these sites feel the need to follow instead of lead. Might as well put Gesicki at WR.

[Pullo Vision]

Will there be another round of positions changes before the start of the season or are positions pretty much locked in at this point? (T Walker is currently listed as DE & I'm hoping that stays that way)

Another batch of changes, coincidentally on the 5th.

ARI: Jessie Lemonier from DE to LB
ARI: Kingsley Keke from DE to DT
ATL: Marlon Davidson from DT to DE
ATL: Ta'Quon Graham from DT to DE
BAL: Brent Urban from DT to DE
BAL: Steven Means from DE to LB
DEN: Kendall Hinton from QB to WR
DEN: DeShawn Williams from DT to DE
DET: Devin Funchess from WR to TE
LAC: Christian Covington from DE to DT
LAR: Jacob Harris from TE to WR
LVR: Malcolm Koonce from DE to LB
LVR: Matthew Butler from DT to DE
NYG: Jalyn Holmes from DT to DE
PHI: JJ Arcega-Whiteside from WR to TE
PIT: Larry Ogunjobi from DT to DE
TB : Akiem Hicks from DT to DE

Lots of DE/DT changes, but I was keeping an eye on Harris as a potential big play receiving threat at TE. Sad that got killed.

[FiremanEd]

Raiders moved back to a 4-3 base setup on MFL. Good news for Maxx Crosby and Chandler Jones owners.

[Pullo Vision]

Raiders moved back to a 4-3 base setup on MFL. Good news for Maxx Crosby and Chandler Jones owners.

That's awesome thanks for the heads up.

[GridironGuerilla]

https://www.fantasysharks.com/fantasy-f ... nges-2023/

https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2023/site_news


Oh, thank the Lawd!!