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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:57 pm

Bronco Billy wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:15 am Reception Perception has started its 2024 rookie assessments and Harmon has evaluated the top 3 WRs in the draft already.

He has MHJ and Odunze as two of the best 3 prospects he’s charted since 2021 and has them up with Chase. He’s still trying to figure which of the 3 he thinks is the best.

Nabers is behind them and needs route running refinement but he still projects elite prospects for him if he improves.

That’s all I’ll disclose since it’s behind a pay wall.
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D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:22 pm

Is it just me or are playerprofiler college dominator numbers low for many in this class. Is anyone able to verify if they’re up to date or correct? I noticed it first with the rbs but also with the WRs. For example, Odunze put up big numbers and yet his college dominator is below average. I understand it’s a share of the team totals, so if the team had a prolific offense, any one player could put up big numbers and their dominator wouldn’t be that high. But still, idk. Something feels off.

Edit: playerprofiler has his at 26% and another article I’m reading says it’s 33%. This is confusing.

Edit: yet another article says 33%

Edit: and another one


Edit edit: hmm ok, I read elsewhere his career dominator rating is 26%. So maybe playerprofiler is using career dominator ratings now? Typically playerprofiler uses the last collegiate year as their number. Man, I really hope playerprofiler didn’t get lazy on this. That would be highly annoying.

If anyone has a list of dominator ratings for all the skill positions (RB, WR, TE) that would be super helpful.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 am

Wicker is going to have an all day chubby reading this

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... d-32-picks


I personally think the author is high as a kite. Not that there is anything wrong with that
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Lumps » Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:57 am

81- wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 am Wicker is going to have an all day chubby reading this

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... d-32-picks


I personally think the author is high as a kite. Not that there is anything wrong with that
The bigger thing is the AZ Kyler/JJ thing. Bananas.
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:28 am

81- wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 am Wicker is going to have an all day chubby reading this

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... d-32-picks


I personally think the author is high as a kite. Not that there is anything wrong with that
There's no way Harrison falls to 1.09, LOL, but always nice to dream. I'd be very happy with Odunze there though.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Bronco Billy » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:39 am

81- wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 am Wicker is going to have an all day chubby reading this

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... d-32-picks


I personally think the author is high as a kite. Not that there is anything wrong with that
Not only that, but on some incredibly good **** no less.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Mike11 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:30 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:39 am
81- wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 am Wicker is going to have an all day chubby reading this

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... d-32-picks


I personally think the author is high as a kite. Not that there is anything wrong with that
Not only that, but on some incredibly good **** no less.
It's genuinely hard to take ESPN seriously when they put out content this bad
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby tstafford » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:38 am

81- wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 am Wicker is going to have an all day chubby reading this

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... d-32-picks


I personally think the author is high as a kite. Not that there is anything wrong with that
For once I agree with you.

And I'm shocked that you didn't somehow blame this mock on Ryan Day.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby 81- » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:13 am

tstafford wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:38 am
81- wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 am Wicker is going to have an all day chubby reading this

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... d-32-picks


I personally think the author is high as a kite. Not that there is anything wrong with that
For once I agree with you.

And I'm shocked that you didn't somehow blame this mock on Ryan Day.
:lol:

Let's see...... Gotta be something there. I'm not sure what, but I'm sure it involves choking
12 Team, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1Flex, D, K, 10 Bench
1PPR, 0.5 point per carry.
Burrow, Richardson
AJ Brown, DJMoore, G Wilson, T Higgens, Sutton, Tillman, Melton
King Henry, Bijan, Pacheco, Mixon, Ford, JK
Hockenson, Musgrave
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby TheTroll » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:22 pm

81- wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:13 am
tstafford wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:38 am
81- wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:45 am Wicker is going to have an all day chubby reading this

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/stor ... d-32-picks


I personally think the author is high as a kite. Not that there is anything wrong with that
For once I agree with you.

And I'm shocked that you didn't somehow blame this mock on Ryan Day.
:lol:

Let's see...... Gotta be something there. I'm not sure what, but I'm sure it involves choking
LOL. The only dream better would be Green Bay falling into well.....Green Bay!
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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pm

Any thoughts on Guerendo? He blew up at the combine. I'm seeing him going undrafted in ADP/mocks.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby mild » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:47 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pm Any thoughts on Guerendo? He blew up at the combine. I'm seeing him going undrafted in ADP/mocks.
Athletic measurables =/= ability to play the position.

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:53 pm

mild wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:47 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pm Any thoughts on Guerendo? He blew up at the combine. I'm seeing him going undrafted in ADP/mocks.
Athletic measurables =/= ability to play the position.
Every year there's a combine freak at RB who's bad at football

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:19 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:53 pm
mild wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:47 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pm Any thoughts on Guerendo? He blew up at the combine. I'm seeing him going undrafted in ADP/mocks.
Athletic measurables =/= ability to play the position.
Every year there's a combine freak at RB who's bad at football
And is that what you're saying about him? I'm just thinking fourth round flier. He's going unddrafted.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

Postby Bronco Billy » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:35 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pm Any thoughts on Guerendo? He blew up at the combine. I'm seeing him going undrafted in ADP/mocks.
The speed is real. Saw plenty of him at Wisconsin but he never got enough work buried behind Taylor and then Allen. When he came in there wasn’t much of a dropoff in the O. 6’-0” and 220 lbs, he’s a power back and unfortunately he doesn’t create much for himself, because if he had some shake to go with that size and speed he’d be one of the top, if not the top, RBs in this draft. Solid footwork, solid balance, runs with good pad height and lean. If he gets down hill no one will track him down from behind.

Like Allen, before last year he did not run decisively often enough and I think he got tagged as not having burst because of it. Like Allen, he ran with much better commitment and decisiveness last season and looked much better doing it. He’s a good (not great) receiver out of the backfield and he’s a good pass protector, so he has a 3 down skill set. He’s going to be 24 at the start of his rookie season, but with his diminished college workload he has plenty of tread on the tires.

He could be this year’s Pacheco - he’ll be more of a hammer early on, but with his size and athleticism if he learns a bit more in refining his game he could be a real surprise as his career moves forward.


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