I disagree on the depth v '22 class argument. I think it's played out pretty well to this point but it wasn't a particularly deep draft beyond WR. Almost nothing at QB/TE, and only 2 top RBs with Pierce coming on strong late. This WR class is looking better than '22 did at this point in the process imo, and there are sure to be many names that elevate or reveal themselves between then and now.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:29 am24 is going to be a solid class. It just lacks the depth of 22 and 23.Beer Makes Me Smile wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:10 am I think the 24 class is going to really pick up steam this off season
QB: Williams, Ewers, Drake Maye
RB: Henderson, Sanders, Allen, Shiply
WR: Harrison Jr, Worthy, Mario Williams
TE: Bowers
Guys like D Edwards, Ja Corey Brooks, and Beaux Collins could really make a jump as well.
Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread
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To me, 24 looks top heavy at RB and WR, but doesn't have depth at either right now. Same with TE. A lot can change, but usually after a really strong and deep class, the next class suffers matching depth. 2015 wasn't as deep as 2014. 2018 wasn't as deep as 2017. 2021 wasn't as deep as 2020.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:50 amI disagree on the depth v '22 class argument. I think it's played out pretty well to this point but it wasn't a particularly deep draft beyond WR. Almost nothing at QB/TE, and only 2 top RBs with Pierce coming on strong late. This WR class is looking better than '22 did at this point in the process imo, and there are sure to be many names that elevate or reveal themselves between then and now.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:29 am24 is going to be a solid class. It just lacks the depth of 22 and 23.Beer Makes Me Smile wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:10 am I think the 24 class is going to really pick up steam this off season
QB: Williams, Ewers, Drake Maye
RB: Henderson, Sanders, Allen, Shiply
WR: Harrison Jr, Worthy, Mario Williams
TE: Bowers
Guys like D Edwards, Ja Corey Brooks, and Beaux Collins could really make a jump as well.
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And RB wasn't top heavy this year? '24 already looks deeper at RB, and could be better at the top.
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23 so far:
Alien Tier: Bijan Robinson
Tier 1: Sean Tucker, Jahmyr Gibbs
Tier 2: Zach Evans, Blake Corum, Tank Bigsby
Tier 3: Zach Charbonnet, Devon Achane, Travis Dye, Chase Brown
There's potentially 8 RBs that could go Day 1-Day 2 in 2023.
2024 so far:
Tier 1: TreVeyon Henderson, Braelon Allen
Tier 2: Rocket Sanders, Will Shipley
Tier 3: Donovan Edwards, Jarquez Hunter?
I just don't see the depth with 2024 so far, though I definitely think you could compare the top of the classes to each other.
2023 easily looks deeper right now.
I like both classes. 24 is obviously a ways away, so anything can happen. But, I just don't see the depth as of now compared to 23. At this point last season, 23 was looking this deep and people knew it.
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I wasn't comparing '24 to '23, I was comparing it to '22.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:47 pm23 so far:
Alien Tier: Bijan Robinson
Tier 1: Sean Tucker, Jahmyr Gibbs
Tier 2: Zach Evans, Blake Corum, Tank Bigsby
Tier 3: Zach Charbonnet, Devon Achane, Travis Dye, Chase Brown
There's potentially 8 RBs that could go Day 1-Day 2 in 2023.
2024 so far:
Tier 1: TreVeyon Henderson, Braelon Allen
Tier 2: Rocket Sanders, Will Shipley
Tier 3: Donovan Edwards, Jarquez Hunter?
I just don't see the depth with 2024 so far, though I definitely think you could compare the top of the classes to each other.
2023 easily looks deeper right now.
I like both classes. 24 is obviously a ways away, so anything can happen. But, I just don't see the depth as of now compared to 23. At this point last season, 23 was looking this deep and people knew it.
'22 only has depth at WR, it was almost nothing at QB/TE ('24 depth in question at those positions still but Caleb/Ewers and Bowers are significantly better than this year offered at those positions, and could be considered elite prospects for their positions). RB meanwhile had 2 guys at the top who were strong prospects and not much else, and '24 is shaping up to be deeper at the position while possibly have a better top 2 (Henderson, Allen).
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But 24 doesn't really have depth at any position. People were able to get 2nd round WRs in the 2nd round of rookie drafts (Metchie, Pierce, W. Robinson) in 2022, and they'll be able to get strong Day 2 capital in the 2nd round this year too.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:07 pmI wasn't comparing '24 to '23, I was comparing it to '22.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:47 pm23 so far:
Alien Tier: Bijan Robinson
Tier 1: Sean Tucker, Jahmyr Gibbs
Tier 2: Zach Evans, Blake Corum, Tank Bigsby
Tier 3: Zach Charbonnet, Devon Achane, Travis Dye, Chase Brown
There's potentially 8 RBs that could go Day 1-Day 2 in 2023.
2024 so far:
Tier 1: TreVeyon Henderson, Braelon Allen
Tier 2: Rocket Sanders, Will Shipley
Tier 3: Donovan Edwards, Jarquez Hunter?
I just don't see the depth with 2024 so far, though I definitely think you could compare the top of the classes to each other.
2023 easily looks deeper right now.
I like both classes. 24 is obviously a ways away, so anything can happen. But, I just don't see the depth as of now compared to 23. At this point last season, 23 was looking this deep and people knew it.
'22 only has depth at WR, it was almost nothing at QB/TE ('24 depth in question at those positions still but Caleb/Ewers and Bowers are significantly better than this year offered at those positions, and could be considered elite prospects for their positions). RB meanwhile had 2 guys at the top who were strong prospects and not much else, and '24 is shaping up to be deeper at the position while possibly have a better top 2 (Henderson, Allen).
Right now, I just don't see how that's the case in 24. If I made a premature mock for 24 in 1QB:
Henderson
Allen
Harrison
Worthy
Rocket
Bowers
Shipley
Egbuka
Edwards?
There's a lot of time left, but I just don't see the depth right now. The names at the top are very good, but it still has to fill out quite a bit.
Re: Way, way, WAY too early 2024 thread
It's 2 years away, more guys are going to elevate and reveal themselves in time. This 2024 class looks a lot better than the 2022 did at this same point in time, and I think that is going to continue to be the case the closer we get.
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So, ugh…Caleb Williams is the Heisman winner, right?
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If you had to draft today, is Harrison Jr the 1.01?
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I play Superflex, so no. Caleb Williams all day.
But I get what you're saying, and yeah, there's definitely a case.
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100%.
He's literally a 6'4 Marvin Harrison.
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In 1 QB leagues Marvin Harrison Jr. Is the clear 1.01 to me and TreVyon Henderson is not my top RB in the class. I have Allen and Shipley ahead of him atm
In SF Williams and Maye ahead of MHJr.
In SF Williams and Maye ahead of MHJr.
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In non-SF yup, SF is Caleb Williams.
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Re: Way, way, WAY too early 2024 thread
Guys can also regress, and lose value. Just ask the Spiller people.
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