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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby tstafford » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:08 am

Felt like it was time to bump this thread. So where are we now on Kyler?

Week 10: 19 of 32, 249, 0TD, 1INT plus 33 rush, 1TD
Week 11: 20 of 30, 214, 1TD, 1INT plus 51 rush, 1TD
Week 12: 27 of 45, 256, 1TD, 0INT, plus 2 rush, 1TD

These are some pretty nice numbers as long as the rushing continues.

More importantly - what are people expecting ARZ to do w/ Kyler at this point? Keep him? Somehow move him? They are still looking good for a top draft slot so a rookie QB is on the table it seems.

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:16 am

As much as I want MHJ in Chicago, does he go to ARI to help Kyler? He's looked way better than Fields, right?
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QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

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QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby CGW » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:31 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:16 am As much as I want MHJ in Chicago, does he go to ARI to help Kyler? He's looked way better than Fields, right?
That is your likely obstacle to getting both Williams and Harrison. AZ at #2 is in a prime spot to take MHJ well before Chicago gets a chance.

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:14 am

CGW wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:31 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:16 am As much as I want MHJ in Chicago, does he go to ARI to help Kyler? He's looked way better than Fields, right?
That is your likely obstacle to getting both Williams and Harrison. AZ at #2 is in a prime spot to take MHJ well before Chicago gets a chance.
Yep. And if we take MHJ at 1.01 what QB is there for our next pick? Not Williams/Maye.
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QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

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QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:22 am

CGW wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:31 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:16 am As much as I want MHJ in Chicago, does he go to ARI to help Kyler? He's looked way better than Fields, right?
That is your likely obstacle to getting both Williams and Harrison. AZ at #2 is in a prime spot to take MHJ well before Chicago gets a chance.
Yeah, Hollywood is a FA, so they likely reset the clock on a rookie deal and get MHJ.
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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby Anteaters » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:36 am

tstafford wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:08 am Felt like it was time to bump this thread. So where are we now on Kyler?

Week 10: 19 of 32, 249, 0TD, 1INT plus 33 rush, 1TD
Week 11: 20 of 30, 214, 1TD, 1INT plus 51 rush, 1TD
Week 12: 27 of 45, 256, 1TD, 0INT, plus 2 rush, 1TD

These are some pretty nice numbers as long as the rushing continues.

More importantly - what are people expecting ARZ to do w/ Kyler at this point? Keep him? Somehow move him? They are still looking good for a top draft slot so a rookie QB is on the table it seems.
I never doubted Kyler would return and be a T10QB. My grade on him remains super high.

I won't try to guess what AZ will do. If I was in charge, I'd take MHJr, resign Hollywood, and spend the rest of the draft on OL, DL, and DBs, in that order. Besides Kyler, AZ has no one who has to have a big contract. That means they can spend a little to keep Hollywood, who is an excellent WR. Having Hollywood, MHJr and McBride will be a great look for the offense. Add a good free agent RB on a team-friendly contract (hello Gus, AJDillon, or even Swift) and this will suddenly be a very dangerous team in 2024.
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QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby TheTroll » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:25 pm

Anteaters wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:36 am
tstafford wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:08 am Felt like it was time to bump this thread. So where are we now on Kyler?

Week 10: 19 of 32, 249, 0TD, 1INT plus 33 rush, 1TD
Week 11: 20 of 30, 214, 1TD, 1INT plus 51 rush, 1TD
Week 12: 27 of 45, 256, 1TD, 0INT, plus 2 rush, 1TD

These are some pretty nice numbers as long as the rushing continues.

More importantly - what are people expecting ARZ to do w/ Kyler at this point? Keep him? Somehow move him? They are still looking good for a top draft slot so a rookie QB is on the table it seems.
I never doubted Kyler would return and be a T10QB. My grade on him remains super high.

I won't try to guess what AZ will do. If I was in charge, I'd take MHJr, resign Hollywood, and spend the rest of the draft on OL, DL, and DBs, in that order. Besides Kyler, AZ has no one who has to have a big contract. That means they can spend a little to keep Hollywood, who is an excellent WR. Having Hollywood, MHJr and McBride will be a great look for the offense. Add a good free agent RB on a team-friendly contract (hello Gus, AJDillon, or even Swift) and this will suddenly be a very dangerous team in 2024.
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Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
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2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

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2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:17 pm

tstafford wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:08 am Felt like it was time to bump this thread. So where are we now on Kyler?

Week 10: 19 of 32, 249, 0TD, 1INT plus 33 rush, 1TD
Week 11: 20 of 30, 214, 1TD, 1INT plus 51 rush, 1TD
Week 12: 27 of 45, 256, 1TD, 0INT, plus 2 rush, 1TD

These are some pretty nice numbers as long as the rushing continues.

More importantly - what are people expecting ARZ to do w/ Kyler at this point? Keep him? Somehow move him? They are still looking good for a top draft slot so a rookie QB is on the table it seems.
I think the only scenario where they move off him is if they get Caleb Williams (which is still very possible). I don't think Drake Maye is enough to do it, though I'm sure it's a conversation at least.

Kyler is a good B+ QB and he'll only be 27 next year. Putting him with MHJ or going Fashanu for the offensive line seems like a dream scenario.

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby MacDaddy123 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:30 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:16 am As much as I want MHJ in Chicago, does he go to ARI to help Kyler? He's looked way better than Fields, right?
For fantasy purposes only, I'd much rather see MHJ in Arizona with Kyler than in Chicago.

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby mild » Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:39 am

MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:30 pm For fantasy purposes only, I'd much rather see MHJ in Arizona with Kyler than in Chicago.
What if it's Caleb Williams throwing him the ball?

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby TheTroll » Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:43 am

mild wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:39 am
MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:30 pm For fantasy purposes only, I'd much rather see MHJ in Arizona with Kyler than in Chicago.
What if it's Caleb Williams throwing him the ball?
Then my Bears will bring in an offensive coordinator that specializes in the triple wishbone
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

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2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

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2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby mild » Wed Nov 29, 2023 2:15 am

TheTroll wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:43 am
mild wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:39 am
MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:30 pm For fantasy purposes only, I'd much rather see MHJ in Arizona with Kyler than in Chicago.
What if it's Caleb Williams throwing him the ball?
Then my Bears will bring in an offensive coordinator that specializes in the triple wishbone
I'm sure Caleb will be cool with it so long as Virginia McCaskey hands over 5% of the team :lol:

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:42 am

Step 1: Draft Caleb
Step 2: Draft MHJ
Step 3: Hire Arthur Smith

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby CGW » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:00 am

Unfortunately, neither of these teams are getting both CW and MHJ unless there is a major trade that goes down. The mocks of Chicago taking the top 5 players in the draft are hilarious, but clearly not how it works.

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Re: Kyler Murray Thread

Postby Valhalla » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:30 am

CGW wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:00 am Unfortunately, neither of these teams are getting both CW and MHJ unless there is a major trade that goes down. The mocks of Chicago taking the top 5 players in the draft are hilarious, but clearly not how it works.
In my latest sim the Bears got Caleb, MHJ, Bowers, Nabers and Odunze. Treyveon in round 2.


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