Mark Ingram

[BradyT]

53 carries for 184 yards so far(3.47 avg), 1 TD, non-factor in the passing game. Ingram Dosn´t look impressive at all. Thoughts?

[tstafford]

53 carries for 184 yards so far(3.47 avg), 1 TD, non-factor in the passing game. Ingram Dosn´t look impressive at all. Thoughts?

I'd be a tad annoyed if I paid a lot to get him. But I'd be hoping (maybe falsely) that PT gets dealt in the off-season. PT is getting 10 touches a game which is just enough to knock Ingram from RB2 status to flex status IMO. Couple that with the fact that Peyton doesn't seem willing historically to give anyone more than about 200 carries anyway.

Ingram is a solid all around player who does nothing spectacular. I think he's a workhorse NLF player and a solid fantasy contributor. But he's never going to be a top guy. I'm beginning to think Ryan Grant. . .but that's not all bad.

[DyeNasty]

I liked him pre injury, but then last year I thought he was the second best back for the tide. I also had him ranked as the 2nd or 3rd back pre draft. Everyone got excited when he landed in NO and his stock rose even more to where people over paid for him. I kinda saw this coming as I think NO is a terrible situation for rb's unless the guy is a gadget guy like sproles who is the only one having success.

[Never Veto1]

Try being the guy in my league that traded Matt Forte for the #1 pick so they could draft Ingram. Sure glad AJ was there at #2 for me

[Water Buffalo]

I know it's passe to look back and say you were right about something, but I was always disappointed that he went to NO. Many thought it was a great fit for him, but I thought it was the complete opposite. Once NO drafted him, I immediately bumped him down below AJ (#1) and Julio (#2) on my board. I did still have him 3rd though, and he's been quite a disappointment thus far for the 3rd rookie pick.

Pierre Thomas isn't dead, and with him and Sproles they have 2 options that they use more in the passing game. NO has a 3 headed RBBC going right now, and the only one worth using is Sproles in a PPR league.

He's still young though, and obviously the jury is very much still out on how he'll turn out.

[tstafford]

Try being the guy in my league that traded Matt Forte for the #1 pick so they could draft Ingram. Sure glad AJ was there at #2 for me

Wow. That was a terrible deal. Goes to show the crazy prices people will pay in May for the 1.01.

[tstafford]

I know it's passe to look back and say you were right about something, but I was always disappointed that he went to NO. Many thought it was a great fit for him, but I thought it was the complete opposite. Once NO drafted him, I immediately bumped him down below AJ (#1) and Julio (#2) on my board. I did still have him 3rd though, and he's been quite a disappointment thus far for the 3rd rookie pick.

Pierre Thomas isn't dead, and with him and Sproles they have 2 options that they use more in the passing game. NO has a 3 headed RBBC going right now, and the only one worth using is Sproles in a PPR league.

He's still young though, and obviously the jury is very much still out on how he'll turn out.

I think that's generally correct.

I too had Ingram behind Green, but said I'd take him 1.01 in a non-PPR without hesitation if I needed a RB. The thing is there just isn't much upside. I think Ingram will be a solid workhorse for years in the league, but will never be an elite guy. But having a good, dependable RB2/flex player is valuable and worth a high draft pick. Ingram seemed like a "safe" pick to me. So far he's underwhelming, but it's only week 5.

[bigcsr67]

I traded up to get the 1.3 and was hoping Ingram fell because my pitiful RB situation, but a guy in my league traded ray rice for the 1.2, 1.7 and mike bush, and took Ingram at 1.2 and i was "stuck" with aj green. I was disapointed at the time, just because I needed, and still need a RB, but AJ Green is a great consolation, and couldnt be happier. Its hard to say if Ingram will ever be much, but it takes time, so Ingram owners must be patient for a little while longer.

[skip]

I too had Ingram behind Green, but said I'd take him 1.01 in a non-PPR without hesitation if I needed a RB. The thing is there just isn't much upside. I think Ingram will be a solid workhorse for years in the league, but will never be an elite guy. But having a good, dependable RB2/flex player is valuable and worth a high draft pick. Ingram seemed like a "safe" pick to me. So far he's underwhelming, but it's only week 5.

Agreed entirely here. My team had a gaping hole at RB and pretty much my entire league assumed I would add Ingram. However he didn't have that something special to him that I saw in AJ Green and I went with the WR. It is way too early to pass judgment on Ingram based on his number to this point but he will be a very reliable RB2 at worst.

[holy_stromboli]

A lot of it comes down to:

1) He is a rookie without the benefit of the offseason due to lockout. Patience!
2) The way Sean Payton is using Ingram, Sproles, and PT has a LOT to do with Ingram's YPC. Don't really feel like pulling out stats I've seen thus far 'cuz I'm lazy (scour the internet), but defenses pretty much know to put 7 or 8 in the box when Ingram is in. Until Payton lines him up in some of the same personnel formations as PT and Sproles and/or getting Ingram going in the passing game, his usage will continue to be predictable.

If you have watched any live footage of him, he looks tough to bring down and makes tough yards. He is not polished completely yet as the Saints' O is complex, but I have faith he'll get it together. Oh yeah, those other RB's aren't dogmeat, but I think Ingram is the best talent, and talent always rises.

[rangerdave]

A lot of it comes down to:

1) He is a rookie without the benefit of the offseason due to lockout. Patience!
2) The way Sean Payton is using Ingram, Sproles, and PT has a LOT to do with Ingram's YPC. Don't really feel like pulling out stats I've seen thus far 'cuz I'm lazy (scour the internet), but defenses pretty much know to put 7 or 8 in the box when Ingram is in. Until Payton lines him up in some of the same personnel formations as PT and Sproles and/or getting Ingram going in the passing game, his usage will continue to be predictable.

If you have watched any live footage of him, he looks tough to bring down and makes tough yards. He is not polished completely yet as the Saints' O is complex, but I have faith he'll get it together. Oh yeah, those other RB's aren't dogmeat, but I think Ingram is the best talent, and talent always rises.

It doesn't look like the Saints pass much when Ingram is in the game. Defenses are able to stack the line when he is in, and are overpowering the O-line.

[holy_stromboli]

Here's something to mull over. Sometimes I like to sniff around a team's forum to see what the local fans who are more plugged in feel about certain players. I'm not a Saints fan and do not follow them, so let them do the work, right?

http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/ingra ... ox-209660/

At the very least, this thread is interesting discussion.

[RobertBobson]

I think it's far too early to write him off. When he got drafted by the saints, I thought people's expectations for him should be tempered in terms of immediate production. And, as was stated before, No offseason coming into a complex offense, is going to be a steep learning curve. I think he looks bad in comparison to some of the other rookie performances, Newton, AJ and Julio, and frankly, I'm shocked there have been so many good rookies with no training camp. I think the lack of camp particularly hurts him because the saints ask rbs to do so much. IF he has a lack luster first season, I think he could be a great buy low going into the offseason.

[Misfit74]

I'm buying; not selling Ingram.