Obviously it's not a concern for next season and beyond but I think it is a clear signal that Kamara will no longer be force-fed elite RB1 touches this season like he was in weeks 1-4.
I saw several posts that seemed to attribute the usage to the blowout nature of the game but remember that Ingram got the start and did most of his damage in the first half when the outcome was still in doubt. In the second half with the game decided, Kamara was mixed in fairly evenly.
I think it was an effort by Payton to jumpstart his veteran RB coming back from suspension and the touches won't always favor Ingram but it's still a clear sign that Kamara will definitely be sharing some workload going forward.
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Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
If this happens next week you can freak.
I’m sure the coach wanted to get Ingram going as well as given Kamara some rest considering his workload the beginning of the season with their bye week coming up.
The bigger issue to both could be this Tyson Hill dude.
Cmon bro
I’m sure the coach wanted to get Ingram going as well as given Kamara some rest considering his workload the beginning of the season with their bye week coming up.
The bigger issue to both could be this Tyson Hill dude.
Cmon bro
Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
I don’t think it will be accepted but on the team I have Kamara and Michel and then question marks I would consider selling a 2019 1st for Ingram to try and lock that backfield up.
Re: Kamara the RB1?
The #1? He's not even the #1 on his own team!
(Just rubbing salt! He's a stud, don't panic.)
(Just rubbing salt! He's a stud, don't panic.)
The Great Old Ones
10-team PPR (1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-D/ST, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Tua, Mac, Mills (bleh)
RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
D/ST: NE
K: Zuerlein
The Blues Brothers
10-team PPR (1-QB, 1-RB, 2-WR, 1-TE, 2-RB/WR/TE, 3-IDP, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Herbert, Hurts, Bridgewater, Winston, Wentz, Heinicke
RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
WR: Kupp, Adams, Nuk, Evans, Ruggs III, Sammy, Guyton, Palmer
TE: Logan, Henry, Engram, Cook, Tremble
IDP: Demario, Bush, Mosley, Jewell, Poyer, Derwin, Vander Esch
10-team PPR (1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-D/ST, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Tua, Mac, Mills (bleh)
RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
D/ST: NE
K: Zuerlein
The Blues Brothers
10-team PPR (1-QB, 1-RB, 2-WR, 1-TE, 2-RB/WR/TE, 3-IDP, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Herbert, Hurts, Bridgewater, Winston, Wentz, Heinicke
RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
WR: Kupp, Adams, Nuk, Evans, Ruggs III, Sammy, Guyton, Palmer
TE: Logan, Henry, Engram, Cook, Tremble
IDP: Demario, Bush, Mosley, Jewell, Poyer, Derwin, Vander Esch
Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
I read the OP, and laughed out loud.
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Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
Payton basically gave him a double bye week.
His production won't be as high as weeks 1-4 again, but it won't be as low as last night again either.
His production won't be as high as weeks 1-4 again, but it won't be as low as last night again either.
Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
I'm pretty sure this is playing out exactly how we thought before the season.
Kamara has a huge workload weeks 1-4, Ingram comes back and goes back to the share it was last year. The only difference is Ingram scored twice and the Saints non-Kamara plays worked well (that rookie QB with the RPO, shots to the rookie WR).
Kamara's not hurt, so my expectations are back to what he did last year, not earlier this year.
Kamara has a huge workload weeks 1-4, Ingram comes back and goes back to the share it was last year. The only difference is Ingram scored twice and the Saints non-Kamara plays worked well (that rookie QB with the RPO, shots to the rookie WR).
Kamara's not hurt, so my expectations are back to what he did last year, not earlier this year.
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Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
I guarantee that Kamara scores ZERO points this upcoming weekend.
I'll pay anyone $1,000 if he scores a point.
I'll pay anyone $1,000 if he scores a point.
16 team PPR Est. 2002 (Champion: 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2016)
Start: QB, 2-4WR, 2-3RB, 1-2TE, K, D
QB: Russell Wilson, Zach Wilson
RB: Barkley, Mixon, Chubb, Hunt, G. Bernard
WR: Adams, Metcalf, Callaway, Shepard, Watkins, Fuller, T. Williams, Proche
TE: Kelce, Pitts, Njoku, Seals-Jones
K: Gay
D: Vikings
Start: QB, 2-4WR, 2-3RB, 1-2TE, K, D
QB: Russell Wilson, Zach Wilson
RB: Barkley, Mixon, Chubb, Hunt, G. Bernard
WR: Adams, Metcalf, Callaway, Shepard, Watkins, Fuller, T. Williams, Proche
TE: Kelce, Pitts, Njoku, Seals-Jones
K: Gay
D: Vikings
Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
The guy was getting 30 touches a game for 4 weeks, not surprising that NO gave him a break with Ingram being fresh (I guess).
Now if that persists, maybe then you could be "concerned" for the rest of season outlook.
Now if that persists, maybe then you could be "concerned" for the rest of season outlook.
Re: Kamara the RB1?
Metriculous wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:56 pm You know I really hate those weeks when Gurley gets game planned out of a big workload and they decide to go with the other RB on the team at the goal line or even that dynamic dual threat QB they sometimes like to use.......
Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
I took it as a joke. I will say that where I was lucky enough to get Kamara, my teams were even luckier this week to not get hurt by a match where he was not featured. Went 5-0.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Kamara the RB1?
How expected was Ingram's usage last night? What does that project for the rest of the season and how if at all does it affect Kamara's value?
Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
Not worried in the least. Non issue. He is exceptionally efficient with his touches. In ppr scoring he is Rb#2 overall. To ease up on his workload is a good thing. It was expected. And, smart of N.O. to get Ingram in to get acclimated before their bye. Like stated above, this was in a way an additional bye week for Kamara. A little break was well deserved. He'll be just fine as a plug and play rb after their bye.
WAY too much knee jerk thinking for a dynasty site community around these parts.
WAY too much knee jerk thinking for a dynasty site community around these parts.
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Re: Kamara the RB1?
Hey Beast.
Not sure what the snap count was last night but, Ingram was used heavy. It doesn't concern me much because I think back to last year and how Kamara was used. I'm again not exactly sure what the % of snaps were or how exactly they were split but I bet Kamara didn't have as many snaps as Ingram. Basically, what im saying is looking forward after the N.O. bye, I'd expect a 40/60 split between Ingram / Kamara. And, if that comes to fruition, Kamara will likely produce more fantasy points than he did last year. Kamara will lose touches as he isn't their feature back so, he'll lose out on goal line and red zone carries, but, he'll still likely be efficient as anyone could be with the carries and passes he does get.
Not sure what the snap count was last night but, Ingram was used heavy. It doesn't concern me much because I think back to last year and how Kamara was used. I'm again not exactly sure what the % of snaps were or how exactly they were split but I bet Kamara didn't have as many snaps as Ingram. Basically, what im saying is looking forward after the N.O. bye, I'd expect a 40/60 split between Ingram / Kamara. And, if that comes to fruition, Kamara will likely produce more fantasy points than he did last year. Kamara will lose touches as he isn't their feature back so, he'll lose out on goal line and red zone carries, but, he'll still likely be efficient as anyone could be with the carries and passes he does get.
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Re: How freaked out are Kamara owners?
IT WAS A JOKE! lolJFever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:59 am Not worried in the least. Non issue. He is exceptionally efficient with his touches. In ppr scoring he is Rb#2 overall. To ease up on his workload is a good thing. It was expected. And, smart of N.O. to get Ingram in to get acclimated before their bye. Like stated above, this was in a way an additional bye week for Kamara. A little break was well deserved. He'll be just fine as a plug and play rb after their bye.
WAY too much knee jerk thinking for a dynasty site community around these parts.
I don't think anyone who reads this forum would sell him cheap...at least I would hope not!
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1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
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WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
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QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
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