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dynastyninja wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:54 pmI can't even believe what I'm reading. The last three years he has been the WR6, WR2, and WR7. How should he be performing?

ImaRounder wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:49 pm Curious to see a TY Hilton and Julio per game comparison over the last two years. I'm guessing it's pretty similar.

Phaded wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:45 pm I'm not worried about Julio at all since I see no concern with Julio himself.
Dude is still elite - the team has just transitioned to a more balanced team and the OC is substantially less aggressive than other OCs. The team has only thrown 7 TDs to WRs in the redzone all year. They don't feed Julio (although the HC keeps calling for it).

To say he is not in the elite tier is laughable because of one "down year" in which he is still 4th in the league in receiving yards. Yes, the touchdowns aren't coming but this community is so knee-jerk it is hilarious. I remember the freak out by so many people when Mike Evans had only 3 touchdowns in his second year. We aren't talking about some fall to being an irrelevant receiver. If him struggling and having an off-year is 4th in the league in receiving yards, give me that guy every time.

Evans has 160 less yards in 1 less game, should we start freaking out about him too?

In the last 3 years for Julio:
83/1409/6 in 14 games.
136/1871/8 in 16 games.
104/1593/6 in 15 games.

In the words of Aaron Rodgers - RELAX.

Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:26 pm

dynastyninja wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:54 pmI can't even believe what I'm reading. The last three years he has been the WR6, WR2, and WR7. How should he be performing?

He should be getting in the end zone.

Most of my leagues are 0.5 ppr, so maybe that sways things a bit. He's currently WR17 ( 1 TD). Last year he was WR7 (6 TD) . In 2015 he was WR2 (8 TD).

He's been billed as a top tier WR. I'm saying he's not in that top tier, that's all. Part of that may be because he's got a high floor, but also rarely puts up a monster week for you, with multiple TDs & big yardage, like AB or OBJ.

Jason3123 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:07 pm Because fantasy players hate streaky WR's (see Brandin Cooks narrative), even though 95% of WR's are streaky lol.

Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:00 pm FWIW, Julio is PFF's 2nd highest grade WR this season. Antonio Brown is #1.

Again, this is mostly a conversation that boils down to touchdowns. While some players are typically more likely to get touchdowns because of their size around the redzone, touchdowns remain a random occurence. Jones is on pace for 86 receptions and 1,258 yards. If you gave him 8 touchdowns along with that, is anyone concerned? That's easily a WR1 finish.

onetwothree wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:33 am

Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:00 pm FWIW, Julio is PFF's 2nd highest grade WR this season. Antonio Brown is #1.

Again, this is mostly a conversation that boils down to touchdowns. While some players are typically more likely to get touchdowns because of their size around the redzone, touchdowns remain a random occurence. Jones is on pace for 86 receptions and 1,258 yards. If you gave him 8 touchdowns along with that, is anyone concerned? That's easily a WR1 finish.

Except he doesn't have 8 TDs.

onetwothree wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:33 am Except he doesn't have 8 TDs.

Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:51 am The point is that Julio is not playing any worse as a player. He doesn't look slower, he doesn't look less athletic, his routes are still good and he is 4th in the league in receiving yards. The only thing he is missing out on are touchdowns, which can be a completely random number each season.