Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:00 pm

While TEs do tend to have longer careers, ATL has not been using him right (or Bijan, for that matter). He can be special, IMO, but we have to believe that ATL can change. It's like me expecting the Bears to be able to develop a QB. I'm not holding my breath.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:08 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:00 pm While TEs do tend to have longer careers, ATL has not been using him right (or Bijan, for that matter). He can be special, IMO, but we have to believe that ATL can change. It's like me expecting the Bears to be able to develop a QB. I'm not holding my breath.
But Atlanta could change (maybe not next year), or he could get out of there. Pitts will hit FA after his rookie deal and still be younger than when Kelce or Ertz put up their 1st 1000 yard season. Pitts did it at 21

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby wickerkat1212 » Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:53 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:08 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:00 pm While TEs do tend to have longer careers, ATL has not been using him right (or Bijan, for that matter). He can be special, IMO, but we have to believe that ATL can change. It's like me expecting the Bears to be able to develop a QB. I'm not holding my breath.
But Atlanta could change (maybe not next year), or he could get out of there. Pitts will hit FA after his rookie deal and still be younger than when Kelce or Ertz put up their 1st 1000 yard season. Pitts did it at 21
Good statistics. Did not know that.
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QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

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QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Finally.

Postby mild » Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:24 pm

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Let the healing begin, Kyle Pitts fans.

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby Vendetta » Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:38 pm

Today is a good day.

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby RheinlandChief » Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:52 am

Well... a new QB would also be a great thing but yeah: First step is taken! :)
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QB: Mahomes
RB: Achane, Warren, Spears, McLaughlin, Brown,
WR: DJM, Jeudy, London, Pickens, Downs, Meyers, W. Robinson, Samuel, Tucker
TE: LaPorta, Pitts, Okonkwo, Otton
K: McLaughlin
DEF: Patriots, Bengals
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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby mild » Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:13 am

RheinlandChief wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:52 am Well... a new QB would also be a great thing but yeah: First step is taken! :)
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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby abloom » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:32 am

Vendetta wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:38 pm Today is a good day.
Well there goes the chances of seeing Bowers and Pitts together...
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

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12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

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R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby tstafford » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:48 am

I hope it's really as simple as the issue for Bijan, Pitts and London was A.Smith. I guess we'll find out in September. Can't be worse I suppose.

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby ArrylT » Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:10 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:08 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:00 pm While TEs do tend to have longer careers, ATL has not been using him right (or Bijan, for that matter). He can be special, IMO, but we have to believe that ATL can change. It's like me expecting the Bears to be able to develop a QB. I'm not holding my breath.
But Atlanta could change (maybe not next year), or he could get out of there. Pitts will hit FA after his rookie deal and still be younger than when Kelce or Ertz put up their 1st 1000 yard season. Pitts did it at 21
After their 1st 3 years

Pitts - 2049 Yards (149 receptions, 259 targets)
Ertz - 2024 Yards (169 receptions, 258 targets)
Kelce - 1737 Yards (138 receptions, 190 targets)
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:48 pm

ArrylT wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:10 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:08 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:00 pm While TEs do tend to have longer careers, ATL has not been using him right (or Bijan, for that matter). He can be special, IMO, but we have to believe that ATL can change. It's like me expecting the Bears to be able to develop a QB. I'm not holding my breath.
But Atlanta could change (maybe not next year), or he could get out of there. Pitts will hit FA after his rookie deal and still be younger than when Kelce or Ertz put up their 1st 1000 yard season. Pitts did it at 21
After their 1st 3 years

Pitts - 2049 Yards (149 receptions, 259 targets)
Ertz - 2024 Yards (169 receptions, 258 targets)
Kelce - 1737 Yards (138 receptions, 190 targets)
That's slightly misleading, Kelce missed his entire rookie year.

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:35 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:48 pm
ArrylT wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:10 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:08 pm

But Atlanta could change (maybe not next year), or he could get out of there. Pitts will hit FA after his rookie deal and still be younger than when Kelce or Ertz put up their 1st 1000 yard season. Pitts did it at 21
After their 1st 3 years

Pitts - 2049 Yards (149 receptions, 259 targets)
Ertz - 2024 Yards (169 receptions, 258 targets)
Kelce - 1737 Yards (138 receptions, 190 targets)
That's slightly misleading, Kelce missed his entire rookie year.
Beat me to it. Even with the stellar rookie season (TE6 finish), Pitts has been a poor ROI being he went typically with a top 3 rookie pick.

For perspective, his record setting rookie year would've essentially been what Jake Ferguson did this season in terms of fantasy totals. I've always been of the opinion to just pay up for the elite guys in their prime as opposed to drafting rookie TEs early.

Doubtful anyone who drafted Njoku and Engram early will say it's been a fun ride.
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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby Shcritters » Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:04 pm

Well, it is about to get a lot more fun with Arthur gone! Literally can’t be worse!
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RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
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QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby TheTroll » Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:59 pm

Shcritters wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:04 pm Well, it is about to get a lot more fun with Arthur gone! Literally can’t be worse!
true that but it does finally leave optimism! If you roster Pitts, he is a hold...especially until we see how the coaching staff & QB plays out
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RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

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RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

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Re: Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

Postby ArrylT » Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:34 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:48 pm
ArrylT wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:10 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:08 pm

But Atlanta could change (maybe not next year), or he could get out of there. Pitts will hit FA after his rookie deal and still be younger than when Kelce or Ertz put up their 1st 1000 yard season. Pitts did it at 21
After their 1st 3 years

Pitts - 2049 Yards (149 receptions, 259 targets)
Ertz - 2024 Yards (169 receptions, 258 targets)
Kelce - 1737 Yards (138 receptions, 190 targets)
That's slightly misleading, Kelce missed his entire rookie year.
Of which most people (on a dynasty football forum) should be aware, or capable of doing their own research. 8-) And just as obviously Pitts missed half of Y2.

If we count simply the 2 years of the 3 they played full seasons

Kelce 1737
Pitts 1693

In the end it is up to each person to determine the context they want to use the stats for. We can always give reasons why a player missed games, coach chose not to start, QB chose not to target ... but in the end after 3 years thats the total yardage & receptions of each of the 3 TEs mentioned.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..


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