YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:44 amThose are now two very different career paths. Choose wisely.
Justin Herbert Long Term
Re: Justin Herbert long term
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Re: Justin Herbert long term
I feel like this really just highlights the incredible start Mahomes had to his career.
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Re: Justin Herbert long term
No argument there.Ruggenater wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:47 amI feel like this really just highlights the incredible start Mahomes had to his career.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
Herbert has almost limitless potential. He is already worthy of the 1.1 dynasty pick in SF leagues.
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Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
He has been a little up and down this year but when he really does put it all together it is going to be scary. Definitely going to win a league MVP or two and maybe a super bowl.
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Re: Justin Herbert long term
Mahomes got to sit a year and has one of the best head coaches of the past 2 decades. The start to Herberts career was just about the polar opposite.
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Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
He's my 1.2-1.04 in SF
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Re: Justin Herbert long term
Herbert looks like Trevor Lawrence will in a couple years when the Jags fire everyone (again). Love 'em both.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:27 pmMahomes got to sit a year and has one of the best head coaches of the past 2 decades. The start to Herberts career was just about the polar opposite.
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Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
I think if I were starting a franchise from scratch, I'd take this guy over all of them.
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Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
Agree!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:07 pm I think if I were starting a franchise from scratch, I'd take this guy over all of them.
As you know, I absolutely loved this guy entering the league and he is even better than I thought. He has all the tools to be great for years to come in the NFL. It is so rare to see a player that lets the game to come to him but has the tools to step on the gas like he does down the field when needed. He is lethal with that hose.
His laser focus to the immediate task at hand is flat out incredible.
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Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
Hmm that's actually a pretty solid point. Some of the others have some concerns (injuries or off the field stuff) where I think Herbert is about as "safe" of a top option there is at QB. I still like others over him for dynasty/fantasy but he's still a QB1 for the foreseeable futureFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:07 pm I think if I were starting a franchise from scratch, I'd take this guy over all of them.
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Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
I see Brady with more arm talent. Hopefully the chargers get it together.
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1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE
3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP
QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
DB-Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Jalen Thompson, Kam Curl, Darrick Forrest
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(2019 & 2020 Runner-Up)
1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE
3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP
QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
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Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
He doesn't have Andy Reid designing the offense, and he started as a rookie. He's bigger, stronger, and honestly, I think he's a better decision maker than Mahomes. Watching him going through his progressions last night, I was super impressed. Can't go wrong with Mahomes, but I would take Herbert over him.Ice wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:49 pmAgree!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:07 pm I think if I were starting a franchise from scratch, I'd take this guy over all of them.
As you know, I absolutely loved this guy entering the league and he is even better than I thought. He has all the tools to be great for years to come in the NFL. It is so rare to see a player that lets the game to come to him but has the tools to step on the gas like he does down the field when needed. He is lethal with that hose.
His laser focus to the immediate task at hand is flat out incredible.
Janiel Dones Truther
Foodie. Mild sauce goes in the trash. Well done steak goes with it.
Foodie. Mild sauce goes in the trash. Well done steak goes with it.
Re: Justin Herbert Long Term
Call me Old Fashioned, but I'll take the guy that has already won a League MVP and a Superbowl, and shown that he's up for lifting his franchise to make those plays on the biggest stages in the most pressure-filled moments.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:40 pm He doesn't have Andy Reid designing the offense, and he started as a rookie. He's bigger, stronger, and honestly, I think he's a better decision maker than Mahomes. Watching him going through his progressions last night, I was super impressed. Can't go wrong with Mahomes, but I would take Herbert over him.
Last I checked, the point of these franchises is to win the big games. Happy to re-evaluate Herbert in big-games... y'know... if he ever gets there.
Starting as a Rookie is a nice argument point. Mahomes went throw-for-throw against Tom Brady as a Sophomore in the AFC Championship game. What'd Herbert do? No offense, but give me that guy over "I've never wanted to tie so bad" Herbert who couldn't beat the Ruggs-less, Gruden-less Raiders to punch his own ticket to his first post-season in his 2nd year on the job.
(Y'know... that very same team that Mahomes put over his knee and spanked like a drum this season... twice)
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