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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
it might hurt Kelce slightly but this offense looks a lot scarier now Sammy is there.
Re: Watkins to Chiefs
Don't see how it could hurt T.Kelce. Different position, different routes. I see Watkins eating directly into T.Hill's targets. I'd imagine that Watkins would be asked to run more deep and intermediate routes from outside. Another weapon for Mahomes can't hurt his acclimation.
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
There's going to be a lot of targets to spread around with Watkins, Hill, Kelce and of course Hunt out of the backfield. I think this helps Mahomes more than it does any of those guys.
Re: Watkins to Chiefs
As someone who paid a hefty price for Hill, this sucks.
Re: Watkins to Chiefs
I like this for my Mahomes shares, and I think it's fine for my Hunt shares, but I'm glad I sold Watkins a couple years ago, I think he'll either be 3rd or 4th target behind Kelce and Hill, maybe Hunt.
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
Not the spot I would have wanted Sammy to go to, but it isn't the worst spot either. Looking forward to seeing how this plays out in the coming season(s).
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
Completely on point
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
I find it unlikely that Kelce is the one of these offensive weapons to take the hit. Seems, to me more likely that Mahomes leans on Kelce. I know I would.... Anyway, I personally have little confidence in Watkins. I also own no shares in him nor am I looking to acquire him anywhere. I'm not sure how anyone at this point could have a lot of confidence in him. He has always had physical talent and that hasn't been the question. First, I'm not sure he is all that smart of a human being. 2nd, I don't think he is that durable of an athlete. The last 3 seasons he's had 70, 44, and 96 targets. Lets, for the sake of discussion say he gets around 100 targets. (His rookie year I think he had 128 for 66 receptions.) That should get Sammy about 65- maybe 70 receptions. Mahomes isn't known for his touch and accuracy.... And with those receptions, he could crack 1000 yds and 7ish tds, maybe. Those #'s don't scream wr1 folks. Maybe things change. Odd are, Sammy is a mid to low end wr2. Sammy, even with this trade is no better than most teams 3rd or 4th option on most fantasy rosters, and, on KC's offense, he seems to be slotted in as the 4th option in their offense. Not a ton to be too excited about.
Helps Robert Woods though.
Helps Robert Woods though.
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
What evidence leads you to think that?JFever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:19 am I find it unlikely that Kelce is the one of these offensive weapons to take the hit. Seems, to me more likely that Mahomes leans on Kelce. I know I would.... Anyway, I personally have little confidence in Watkins. I also own no shares in him nor am I looking to acquire him anywhere. I'm not sure how anyone at this point could have a lot of confidence in him. He has always had physical talent and that hasn't been the question. First, I'm not sure he is all that smart of a human being. 2nd, I don't think he is that durable of an athlete. The last 3 seasons he's had 70, 44, and 96 targets. Lets, for the sake of discussion say he gets around 100 targets. (His rookie year I think he had 128 for 66 receptions.) That should get Sammy about 65- maybe 70 receptions. Mahomes isn't known for his touch and accuracy.... And with those receptions, he could crack 1000 yds and 7ish tds, maybe. Those #'s don't scream wr1 folks. Maybe things change. Odd are, Sammy is a mid to low end wr2. Sammy, even with this trade is no better than most teams 3rd or 4th option on most fantasy rosters, and, on KC's offense, he seems to be slotted in as the 4th option in their offense. Not a ton to be too excited about.
Helps Robert Woods though.
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
Flat earth stuff probablyJason3123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:34 amWhat evidence leads you to think that?JFever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:19 am I find it unlikely that Kelce is the one of these offensive weapons to take the hit. Seems, to me more likely that Mahomes leans on Kelce. I know I would.... Anyway, I personally have little confidence in Watkins. I also own no shares in him nor am I looking to acquire him anywhere. I'm not sure how anyone at this point could have a lot of confidence in him. He has always had physical talent and that hasn't been the question. First, I'm not sure he is all that smart of a human being. 2nd, I don't think he is that durable of an athlete. The last 3 seasons he's had 70, 44, and 96 targets. Lets, for the sake of discussion say he gets around 100 targets. (His rookie year I think he had 128 for 66 receptions.) That should get Sammy about 65- maybe 70 receptions. Mahomes isn't known for his touch and accuracy.... And with those receptions, he could crack 1000 yds and 7ish tds, maybe. Those #'s don't scream wr1 folks. Maybe things change. Odd are, Sammy is a mid to low end wr2. Sammy, even with this trade is no better than most teams 3rd or 4th option on most fantasy rosters, and, on KC's offense, he seems to be slotted in as the 4th option in their offense. Not a ton to be too excited about.
Helps Robert Woods though.
Re: Watkins to Chiefs
Kelce gonna be the primary target and Tyreek/Sammy will be 1a/1b. Albert Wilson/Demarcus Robinson/Demtrius Harris accounted for like 140 targets last season. There will be room for Sammy to be effective. Not the best case scenario but this is a good move for Sammy without necessarily hurting the incumbent receivers. You don't pay the man $16 million/year w/$30 million guaranteed and not give him targets.
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
JFever, very smart people have very dumb ideas. Not that there is anyway the earth is flat, but a lot of brilliant people through out time have been called crazy and stupid and been the only person on Earth(the round one) who actually knew what they were talking about.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:36 amFlat earth stuff probablyJason3123 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:34 amWhat evidence leads you to think that?JFever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:19 am I find it unlikely that Kelce is the one of these offensive weapons to take the hit. Seems, to me more likely that Mahomes leans on Kelce. I know I would.... Anyway, I personally have little confidence in Watkins. I also own no shares in him nor am I looking to acquire him anywhere. I'm not sure how anyone at this point could have a lot of confidence in him. He has always had physical talent and that hasn't been the question. First, I'm not sure he is all that smart of a human being. 2nd, I don't think he is that durable of an athlete. The last 3 seasons he's had 70, 44, and 96 targets. Lets, for the sake of discussion say he gets around 100 targets. (His rookie year I think he had 128 for 66 receptions.) That should get Sammy about 65- maybe 70 receptions. Mahomes isn't known for his touch and accuracy.... And with those receptions, he could crack 1000 yds and 7ish tds, maybe. Those #'s don't scream wr1 folks. Maybe things change. Odd are, Sammy is a mid to low end wr2. Sammy, even with this trade is no better than most teams 3rd or 4th option on most fantasy rosters, and, on KC's offense, he seems to be slotted in as the 4th option in their offense. Not a ton to be too excited about.
Helps Robert Woods though.
Anyway being a Flat Earther doesn't automatically make you stupid. Gullible at best.
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
Pretty sure this means Bobby Woods will face every opposing defense's top corner every game now and not sure his targets go up drastically. Think it does help Josh Reynolds or whoever Rams sign to replace Sammy though.
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Re: Watkins to Chiefs
There is actually evidence that the universe is in fact flat and our perception is more of a hologram. This is beyond the comprehension of most though - https://phys.org/news/2017-01-reveals-s ... verse.htmlBalzac wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:47 amJFever, very smart people have very dumb ideas. Not that there is anyway the earth is flat, but a lot of brilliant people through out time have been called crazy and stupid and been the only person on Earth(the round one) who actually knew what they were talking about.
Anyway being a Flat Earther doesn't automatically make you stupid. Gullible at best.
Point being, alternative beliefs don't make you dumb.
Re: Watkins to Chiefs
I think it's probably a net neutral thing for Hill. If you were expecting his targets to go up well, ok yes maybe you should be disappointed.
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