Lamar vs Amari

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Poll ended at Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:21 am

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Total votes: 11

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Lamar vs Amari

Postby Whittles12 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:21 am

Trade on the table,
I give Amari Cooper
I get Lamar Jackson and 2020 2nd.

PPR 1 Q/R/W/T and 2 flex R/W/T

Dalton and Winston
Barkley Chubb Cook Gordon
MT, Cooper jjaws Boykin, Harmon Preston Williams
Mark Andrews Chris Herndon.

I have 2 2020 1st. Mine and 0-2 team(top 6 pick for sure).

Losing Amari hurts my depth on bye weeks. But outside of that don’t see me ever playing him over Thomas or the 3 running backs.
12 Tm 28 man roster
SF TEP 1Ppr(2 TE)Start 10 Q-R-R-W-W-W-T-SF-F-F
Q- Rodgers, Carr, Levis, mariota, O’Connell Haener, Brady, Zappe
R- CMC, D Johnson, D Harris, Warren, K. Ingram, t jones singletary.
W- Hill, Olave, Allen, Lockett, puka, m. Wilson, Mingo,Van, Hodgins, McKenzie
T- Kelce, Muth.
2024- 1st.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:26 am

Lots of Jackson posts today. In a 1 QB league, I think the value is still on the Cooper side but I'm very high on Jackson as other posts have shown ha ha.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby Goddard » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:33 am

Keep Cooper.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby troyticus » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:36 am

1 QB league you keep Cooper
Shake and Baker 1-1
12 Team PPR
QB: Wentz, Brees, Mayfield, Minshew
RB: Mixon, Fournette, Mack, Guice, McCoy, J. Hill
WR: Smith-Schuster, Hill, M. Williams,C. Davis, Fitzgerald, Sanders, Gallup
TE: Kelce, Howard, Hockenson

Lights, Camera, Jackson!
12 Team PPR
QB: Jackson, Minshew
RB: Barkley, Gordon, Duke Johnson, Drake, Barber, Bonnafon
WR: Hill, Boyd, Moore, McLaurin, D. Robinson, Harry
TE: Kittle, Walker

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby Whittles12 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:37 am

Goddard wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:33 am Keep Cooper.
If I got a 2020 1st instead would that change it
12 Tm 28 man roster
SF TEP 1Ppr(2 TE)Start 10 Q-R-R-W-W-W-T-SF-F-F
Q- Rodgers, Carr, Levis, mariota, O’Connell Haener, Brady, Zappe
R- CMC, D Johnson, D Harris, Warren, K. Ingram, t jones singletary.
W- Hill, Olave, Allen, Lockett, puka, m. Wilson, Mingo,Van, Hodgins, McKenzie
T- Kelce, Muth.
2024- 1st.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby Goddard » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:12 pm

Whittles12 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:37 am
Goddard wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:33 am Keep Cooper.
If I got a 2020 1st instead would that change it
As long as the 1st isn't projected very late, then yes, I'd take that.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:25 pm

I would actually take Lamar.

Now obviously QB is typically less valuable in 1QB, but that's because there are so many options that will all produce at about the same level. This means that true difference makers at the position are rare in this format, but Lamar is one of those select few that can make a real difference at the QB position in fantasy. Similar to how Kelce and Ertz have been pretty easily the top 2 TEs and carry a lot of value due to their positional advantage, I believe Mahomes and Lamar are above the rest of the field at their positions and warrant a higher level of investment over most other options. Now this will probably result in a bit of a hit short term because you don't have much to step into Amari's vacated spot, but I think it's worth it to get Lamar for the long-term.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby Whittles12 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:18 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:25 pm I would actually take Lamar.

Now obviously QB is typically less valuable in 1QB, but that's because there are so many options that will all produce at about the same level. This means that true difference makers at the position are rare in this format, but Lamar is one of those select few that can make a real difference at the QB position in fantasy. Similar to how Kelce and Ertz have been pretty easily the top 2 TEs and carry a lot of value due to their positional advantage, I believe Mahomes and Lamar are above the rest of the field at their positions and warrant a higher level of investment over most other options. Now this will probably result in a bit of a hit short term because you don't have much to step into Amari's vacated spot, but I think it's worth it to get Lamar for the long-term.
See that is kind of what I was thinking. I am pretty stacked with my starters. Due to line up format, I don’t even start Cooper. He is strictly bye week replacement or next man up injury wise. By adding Lamar, I would feel even better at my shot at a title. Granted, I need to stay healthy. I do have Melvin Gordon and 2 2020 1st 1 2020 2/3 (would have 2x 2nd, if I traded)also if I had to move later in season for Wr.

Right now I sent him a counter of Amari and 20 2nd mine for Lamar and his 20 1st.
12 Tm 28 man roster
SF TEP 1Ppr(2 TE)Start 10 Q-R-R-W-W-W-T-SF-F-F
Q- Rodgers, Carr, Levis, mariota, O’Connell Haener, Brady, Zappe
R- CMC, D Johnson, D Harris, Warren, K. Ingram, t jones singletary.
W- Hill, Olave, Allen, Lockett, puka, m. Wilson, Mingo,Van, Hodgins, McKenzie
T- Kelce, Muth.
2024- 1st.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby Dibbles » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:23 pm

I would only do deal if you get back Lamar and early 1st. Cooper >>> Lamar in 1QB, regardless of who is currently starting for you at QB. The upgrade at QB is not nearly worth the points you lose to Amari on bye weeks, injuries, etc.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:49 pm

Whittles12 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:18 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:25 pm I would actually take Lamar.

Now obviously QB is typically less valuable in 1QB, but that's because there are so many options that will all produce at about the same level. This means that true difference makers at the position are rare in this format, but Lamar is one of those select few that can make a real difference at the QB position in fantasy. Similar to how Kelce and Ertz have been pretty easily the top 2 TEs and carry a lot of value due to their positional advantage, I believe Mahomes and Lamar are above the rest of the field at their positions and warrant a higher level of investment over most other options. Now this will probably result in a bit of a hit short term because you don't have much to step into Amari's vacated spot, but I think it's worth it to get Lamar for the long-term.
See that is kind of what I was thinking. I am pretty stacked with my starters. Due to line up format, I don’t even start Cooper. He is strictly bye week replacement or next man up injury wise. By adding Lamar, I would feel even better at my shot at a title. Granted, I need to stay healthy. I do have Melvin Gordon and 2 2020 1st 1 2020 2/3 (would have 2x 2nd, if I traded)also if I had to move later in season for Wr.

Right now I sent him a counter of Amari and 20 2nd mine for Lamar and his 20 1st.
I like it.

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Re: Lamar vs Amari

Postby Trevormortis » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:34 pm

Whittles12 wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:18 pm Right now I sent him a counter of Amari and 20 2nd mine for Lamar and his 20 1st.
If you can do this I would
Team 1. 12 team. 1 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2017 2nd, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2022 1st
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5

Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5


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