Ask Nelson AgholorAresGodOWar wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:06 am If you go to a strip club and start grabbing on a womans tits she can press charges
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
So Zeke should be jailed just as long for the same thing and for conspiracy to commit those crimes. We have people locked up in my prison for a lot less... Also, sexual assault is up to 20 years in prison. Anyone dismissing this as "he was drunk and she asked for it" is just making excuses for their fantasy team. If he did this to your daughter you'd be pissedewalling wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:22 amI wasn't being sarcasticJames McGhee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:25 amNope, not at all. I'm just not outraged. Just like when a drunk guy at a bar who is talking sh## gets knocked out...I'm not outraged either.
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
LOL at you trying to turn this around in to someone else's sensitivity. I can't believe people still feel the this way. "She was asking for it". Girls that dress provocatively are asking to be sexually assaulted too right?James McGhee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:53 amIf it's 2017 and men and women are equal than this woman can take responsibility for her actions. This wasn't an unprovoked attack. It was hardly more than two people at a bar messing about.chopping mall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:44 amAbsolutely not. a woman is never "asking for it". Just astonishing that any man in this day and age can still say something like this but I guess it shouldn't be. "Well she exposed herself later, so it's ok that Zeke did it without her permission" I am quite frankly surprised and disgusted to see comments like these around here.
You guys speak for yourselves with comments like these and your thoughts and attitudes about women speak for themselves as well then.
The level of sensitivity in society these days is astonishing. How do you make it through any day without being morally outraged at one thing or other?
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"If he did this to your daughter you'd be pissed"GLSmk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:55 amSo Zeke should be jailed just as long for the same thing and for conspiracy to commit those crimes. We have people locked up in my prison for a lot less... Also, sexual assault is up to 20 years in prison. Anyone dismissing this as "he was drunk and she asked for it" is just making excuses for their fantasy team. If he did this to your daughter you'd be pissedewalling wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:22 amI wasn't being sarcasticJames McGhee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:25 am
Nope, not at all. I'm just not outraged. Just like when a drunk guy at a bar who is talking sh## gets knocked out...I'm not outraged either.
I absolutely think ANY father would be mad if a male did that to his daughter (as they are as to what goes on behind closed doors with permission). I also think most fathers would be ashamed if their daughter acted like that on her own also ( we get it, you need attention honey, plain and simple). I agree with the "where there is smoke, there is fire comment" when it comes to him too. Though, nowadays there are just so many ways to get caught and for the bad press to spread. Video is the killer, visual evidence always hits the hardest. If I had to bet, I do not think a whole lot will come out of this as far as legal action or punishment. Not necessarily my viewpoint, but more what I think will happen.
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
I've been to so many street parties in my life, mardi gras, guavaween, carnivals overseas (was in the Navy) .. I've seen sex acts in the streets, full nudity ...
This is such a non-event in the scope of things .. he does have to realize that his celebrity should prohibit his inclusion in such events .. he'll learn sooner than later I suppose.
This is such a non-event in the scope of things .. he does have to realize that his celebrity should prohibit his inclusion in such events .. he'll learn sooner than later I suppose.
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
Madonna did the exact same thing to one of her fans at one of her shows. I think it really depends on the person as to whether or not this is a big deal. #freethenipple and all that. Zeke is an idiot for doing something like this in such a public venue, but unless the victim of this has an issue with it, I don't personally care.
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
Must this really turn into a 'what's right' and 'what's wrong' discussion? No one is going to get anywhere with that, so just toss it out the window. Regardless of what you feel is 'right', does anyone actually see this having any impact on Zeke from a fantasy football perspective? I absolutely do not, even if it means a one game suspension (of which i think he would just be able to pay to make it go away and both sides of the equation would be very happy). I similarly wouldn't be concerned with this particular action being some bigger trendy issue with him, but that's just me.
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[/quote]So Zeke should be jailed just as long for the same thing and for conspiracy to commit those crimes. We have people locked up in my prison for a lot less... Also, sexual assault is up to 20 years in prison. Anyone dismissing this as "he was drunk and she asked for it" is just making excuses for their fantasy team. If he did this to your daughter you'd be pissed
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I agree. I would be surprised if he did not receive some form of suspension. I don't think Goodell will take this matter likely.
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I agree. I would be surprised if he did not receive some form of suspension. I don't think Goodell will take this matter likely.
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I agree. I would be surprised if he did not receive some form of suspension. I don't think Goodell will take this matter likely.GLSmk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:55 amSo Zeke should be jailed just as long for the same thing and for conspiracy to commit those crimes. We have people locked up in my prison for a lot less... Also, sexual assault is up to 20 years in prison. Anyone dismissing this as "he was drunk and she asked for it" is just making excuses for their fantasy team. If he did this to your daughter you'd be pissedewalling wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:22 amI wasn't being sarcasticJames McGhee wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:25 am
Nope, not at all. I'm just not outraged. Just like when a drunk guy at a bar who is talking sh## gets knocked out...I'm not outraged either.
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How ever you want to slice it, it was a super dumb a@@ move. This kid better smarten up.
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
x2. Let's not be a--holes. A girl/woman is almost never asking for it. Flirting, dressing provocatively, coming over late, whatever, does not mean she is asking for it. And before you say "I was just joking", it's not a joking matter...
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
Regardless if you think this is sexual assault or just a couple of drunk people getting carried away (I fall somewhere in the middle) the NFL won't let this slide without a punishment of some nature for no other reason than the massive campaign to get more women interested in the sport. From Zeke's perspective, how stupid can you be? You were in the running for MVP and OROY in 2016 and quickly becoming one of the faces of the league, why tarnish that?
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
Of course he's not going to get a serious sanction.
This is classic modern culture of 2017
Punch a woman ---> WTF you banned for life
Pull down a woman short without her consent ---> OMG BOOOBS
This is classic modern culture of 2017
Punch a woman ---> WTF you banned for life
Pull down a woman short without her consent ---> OMG BOOOBS
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Re: Zeke in trouble?
I was looking for a female perspective so I showed this to my wife. Her response "and. . . Is the all?"
Which was essentially what I thought when I saw it. Is it good role model behavior? Certainly not. Is it what he 'should be doing', no, of course not. Was it inappropriate? Yes, for sure.
On the other hand, did the woman appear to be seriously hurt or offended by the action? certainly not. Was this "assault"? No. Should he face legal action? I really don't see so. Would she have a civil case against him? I suppose, though it seems minor.
Also, the context of any on going relationship between them really is unknown, or at least as far as I know, and would not be a non factor in any wrongness here
Which was essentially what I thought when I saw it. Is it good role model behavior? Certainly not. Is it what he 'should be doing', no, of course not. Was it inappropriate? Yes, for sure.
On the other hand, did the woman appear to be seriously hurt or offended by the action? certainly not. Was this "assault"? No. Should he face legal action? I really don't see so. Would she have a civil case against him? I suppose, though it seems minor.
Also, the context of any on going relationship between them really is unknown, or at least as far as I know, and would not be a non factor in any wrongness here
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