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Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:09 am
by Cameron Giles
I think Miller will be back. His cap hit isn't awful (7.2M) and he's solid, though unspectacular in most phases. So, he has that going for him. If they do move on (only $1M in dead cap) then I can't see them handing over the backfield to an RB coming off an achilles tear.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:24 am
by Orenthal Shames
grandmabetty wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:01 am who cares about miller lets keep this thread about foreman.
Miller factors into Foreman whether you want it to or not. Foreman hasn't played since being hurt, so there isn't much to discuss otherwise.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:26 am
by Phaded
If you've watched the Texans play this year - you'll realize they don't need Foreman.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:42 am
by Vcize
I'm not sure whether Miller staying this offseason (his contract is very cuttable) is good or bad for Foreman. If he leaves then with doubts about Foreman's healthy they'll almost certainly have to invest in the RB position this offseason, and chances are decent they'll bring in someone who is better than Miller.

I think I'd rather roll the dice with him battling Miller next year and count on this just being a flash for Miller where he fades back into the guy we saw the last two years.

Of course the best possible scenario is that Foreman looks great the rest of this year and they cut Miller in the offseason with enough confidence in Foreman to not bring in strong competition, but that seems very unlikely.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:35 pm
by skip
grandmabetty wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:01 am who cares about miller lets keep this thread about foreman. I don't think ill be activating him from the taxi squad this year for the playoffs bit im sure hoping he recovers fully and can be a beast in 2019
Ok, let's keep it about Foreman... As pedestrian as people think Miller was a year ago, he was more consistent than Foreman. Foreman is far, far from a "beast" in this league. Even if Miller is gone, the Texans aren't starting Foreman in 2019.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:02 pm
by grandmabetty
skip wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:35 pm
grandmabetty wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:01 am who cares about miller lets keep this thread about foreman. I don't think ill be activating him from the taxi squad this year for the playoffs bit im sure hoping he recovers fully and can be a beast in 2019
Ok, let's keep it about Foreman... As pedestrian as people think Miller was a year ago, he was more consistent than Foreman. Foreman is far, far from a "beast" in this league. Even if Miller is gone, the Texans aren't starting Foreman in 2019.
While that may be true, to be fair there isn't much of a sample size. Foreman has 78 career carries and 1 career start. Compare that to Miller who has 102 games and over 1300 career rushing attempts. IMO I think the more accurate statement would be to say we don't fully know what Foreman is capable of yet rather than call him a beast or a bust. Furthermore, whatever he was, we are yet to see how, if in any way at all, his injury has changed him.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:46 pm
by DLF3000
Pre-injury, I believe Foreman was a few weeks or less from taking Miller's job last year.

Post-injury, not sure anymore. That's no small injury to come back from, never mind come back from quickly.

Unfortunately, looks like a tough sitch for Foreman now, even if they finally activated them.

Dynasty-wise, looks like another "can't trade 'em (for decent value), don't really wanna keep 'em either" guy on your roster.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:24 pm
by badbuddah
DLF3000 wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:46 pm Pre-injury, I believe Foreman was a few weeks or less from taking Miller's job last year.

Post-injury, not sure anymore. That's no small injury to come back from, never mind come back from quickly.

Unfortunately, looks like a tough sitch for Foreman now, even if they finally activated them.

Dynasty-wise, looks like another "can't trade 'em (for decent value), don't really wanna keep 'em either" guy on your roster.
Pretty much this. I'm going to keep him but I could see him not being the same/miller being too far ahead now. I can see him being either a career backup or being cut after next year. I think it is a long shot he is anything else.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:09 pm
by Servo
Week 11, Foreman went down and the Texans' season was already a total waste. Miller was meh, OL was bad, QB was bad....to me, Foreman was definitely going to get his shot and had a great game where he ultimately got injured.

Just a bad injury at the wrong time, Miller now has resurrected himself of sorts but barring total collapse, Texans are going to the playoffs and there's a chance Foreman gets work in a big spotlight. We'll see if he does and what he does with it.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:14 pm
by Forza_Azzurri
Miller's play helps Foreman indirectly ... if Miller was sucking it up & Foreman's Achilles was still a question mark heading into 2019, the Texans would likely look to add a feature back. But now they can reasonably go into 2019 with Miller and Foreman thus giving Foreman more time to earn a feature role.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:37 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
Forza_Azzurri wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:14 pm Miller's play helps Foreman indirectly ... if Miller was sucking it up & Foreman's Achilles was still a question mark heading into 2019, the Texans would likely look to add a feature back. But now they can reasonably go into 2019 with Miller and Foreman thus giving Foreman more time to earn a feature role.
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Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:10 am
by thebeast
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:37 pm
Forza_Azzurri wrote: Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:14 pm Miller's play helps Foreman indirectly ... if Miller was sucking it up & Foreman's Achilles was still a question mark heading into 2019, the Texans would likely look to add a feature back. But now they can reasonably go into 2019 with Miller and Foreman thus giving Foreman more time to earn a feature role.
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Lol. X2

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:32 am
by ArrylT
I'm curious to see what the Texans decide to do with Alfred Blue - who is sort of like the Texans version of Bilal Powell, that veteran guy who keeps chugging away in a role.

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:01 am
by Patsfan86
ArrylT wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:32 am I'm curious to see what the Texans decide to do with Alfred Blue - who is sort of like the Texans version of Bilal Powell, that veteran guy who keeps chugging away in a role.
Or every teams Frank Gore

Re: Foreman Value Now?

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:25 am
by skip
Weknownothing86 wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:01 am
ArrylT wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:32 am I'm curious to see what the Texans decide to do with Alfred Blue - who is sort of like the Texans version of Bilal Powell, that veteran guy who keeps chugging away in a role.
Or every teams Frank Gore
Powell and Gore are nothing at all alike...lol