Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:38 pm
Interestingly enough Antone Smith lasted 7 seasons in the NFL (average RB career is a shade under 3 I believe). Not relevant - just fun fact.
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Interestingly enough Antone Smith lasted 7 seasons in the NFL (average RB career is a shade under 3 I believe). Not relevant - just fun fact.
Yep, its a lot easier to come in late in the game when most players are getting worn down and rip off a long run on fresher legs. Happens with a lot of COP backs. Ekeler v Gordon, Brown v Gurley, etc. Additionally there are a lot of things that take time to adjust to in the NFL, pass pro, routes, receiving, all things that any starting RB needs to be able to do.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:33 pm I think it's a mistake to analyze Chubb's 16 carries in 6 games and conclude that he'll be a better RB for them. It's a lot easier to come in the game as a change-of-pace and get off a few big runs.
is this actually true? i dont believe that it isFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:04 pmIt's because he doesn't do anything well when he doesn't have the ball. That's the reality. Missing assignments, not pass protecting well etc. will do that.TheRookiePro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:58 pm Yeah this is nothing compared to the ignorant incompetent mess that is Mike McCarthy's retainment of Aaron Jones.
Glad my team completely owned on Sunday without having to start Jones tonight. I'd become infuriated with his lack of usage. All that kid does, is pick up chunks of yardage and then ride the bench on the next drive.
i think the guy just has his eyes open and can see chubb is a great runner. i doubt very highly this gentleman thinks he is the greatest personnel evaluator, im sure he felt the same way when chubb had only 2 carries for 2 yards, also doubt he is hilariously inept because he referenced stats to back his argument. simply wanted to discuss why chubb wasnt getting the usage he deserves based on how good he has looked with limited touches.Phaded wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:44 pm lol This is hilarious when some fantasy owners act like they are the greatest personnel evaluators.
Hyde is not bad - and there is way more to being a running back than how a running back looks as a change of pace back.
Chubb has a lot to learn. When a player cannot even pick up his special teams blocks you are not gonna put him next to Baker.
Where were you last week when he had 2 yards?
Oh right, that would be inconvenient to your argument.
The fact that you use YPC to back your arguments when it is off a 3 carry game is hilariously inept. Two words. Antone Smith.
Thank you BBR.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:29 ami think the guy just has his eyes open and can see chubb is a great runner. i doubt very highly this gentleman thinks he is the greatest personnel evaluator, im sure he felt the same way when chubb had only 2 carries for 2 yards, also doubt he is hilariously inept because he referenced stats to back his argument. simply wanted to discuss why chubb wasnt getting the usage he deserves based on how good he has looked with limited touches.Phaded wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:44 pm lol This is hilarious when some fantasy owners act like they are the greatest personnel evaluators.
Hyde is not bad - and there is way more to being a running back than how a running back looks as a change of pace back.
Chubb has a lot to learn. When a player cannot even pick up his special teams blocks you are not gonna put him next to Baker.
Where were you last week when he had 2 yards?
Oh right, that would be inconvenient to your argument.
The fact that you use YPC to back your arguments when it is off a 3 carry game is hilariously inept. Two words. Antone Smith.
the answer in my opinion is the coach sucks and they dont wanna win too much, just instill hope in the fanbase
That’s a bad narrative. Aaron Jones has graded better than Jamaal Williams this season in pass protection. Might have been the case heading into the season, but has been disproven.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:04 pmIt's because he doesn't do anything well when he doesn't have the ball. That's the reality. Missing assignments, not pass protecting well etc. will do that.TheRookiePro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:58 pm Yeah this is nothing compared to the ignorant incompetent mess that is Mike McCarthy's retainment of Aaron Jones.
Glad my team completely owned on Sunday without having to start Jones tonight. I'd become infuriated with his lack of usage. All that kid does, is pick up chunks of yardage and then ride the bench on the next drive.
Pretty much this. I think Chubb will be good. I'm assuming Haley would play him more if he were showing well in his protections in practice. It could just be that the coaching in Cleveland is better suited for high school, though.
Agreed.Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:59 am Side tangent on the side tangent, I don't think they could get a third for Hyde from the Eagles. Probably looking for more like a fifth at best, don't see a point in giving a third for Hyde when Howard could probably be had for a 2nd or Bell for a 2nd and a guy.
Yeah, I don't know the exact metrics of how the compensatory picks work... but he should sign something around 5yr for 75M if I had to guess plus the multiple pro bowls and all pro awards, should net someone a third unless they go and make a major splash in FA to counterbalance it (say signing Lawrence, Taylor Lewan, Jake Matthews, or Clowney)Valhalla wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:10 pmAgreed.Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:59 am Side tangent on the side tangent, I don't think they could get a third for Hyde from the Eagles. Probably looking for more like a fifth at best, don't see a point in giving a third for Hyde when Howard could probably be had for a 2nd or Bell for a 2nd and a guy.
Although...Bell can't sign with any team until after the season. He's purely a rental. Teams can't trade for and then sign him.
Although...if a team traded for him and used him as a rental (and Bell actually tried), it wouldn't be so bad to pay a 2nd considering the team would likely be compensated a 3rd when he is lost to free agency.
Very well said.Phaded wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:44 pm lol This is hilarious when some fantasy owners act like they are the greatest personnel evaluators.
Hyde is not bad - and there is way more to being a running back than how a running back looks as a change of pace back.
Chubb has a lot to learn. When a player cannot even pick up his special teams blocks you are not gonna put him next to Baker.
Where were you last week when he had 2 yards?
Oh right, that would be inconvenient to your argument.
The fact that you use YPC to back your arguments when it is off a 3 carry game is hilariously inept. Two words. Antone Smith.
Are you really making an argument that Hyde is on the same level as a player as Gordon for the Chargers?lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:10 pmVery well said.Phaded wrote: ↑Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:44 pm lol This is hilarious when some fantasy owners act like they are the greatest personnel evaluators.
Hyde is not bad - and there is way more to being a running back than how a running back looks as a change of pace back.
Chubb has a lot to learn. When a player cannot even pick up his special teams blocks you are not gonna put him next to Baker.
Where were you last week when he had 2 yards?
Oh right, that would be inconvenient to your argument.
The fact that you use YPC to back your arguments when it is off a 3 carry game is hilariously inept. Two words. Antone Smith.
By this logic, the idiot Charger coaches need to give Ekeler a 50% share of the carries because he’s obviously a stud too.
It’s very common for a 2nd string RB to have a stronger YPC than the workhorse who has to do the dirty work grind stuff.
I was gonna mention Ben Tate behind Arian Foster as the best example of this, but Smith is actually PERFECT.
I dunno man, he nearly juked that defender out of his shoes.Phaded wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:52 pm https://youtu.be/yYRJ14CpzQI
First clip of this video.
And you wonder why they do not trust him on the field more?