16-team offer

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16-team offer

Postby Grimmer » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:19 pm

16-team 1QB league I was offered:
DT + Seals-Jones
for
Dak + Ebron + '19 1st (was pick 16 this year & getting OBJ back)

I was considering countering to replace DT with McKinnon. Thoughts? I don't pick til the end of the 4th round this season, but have all my picks next year.

UPDATE: He asked what I’d want to include Dak for DT or McKinnon and didn’t respond to me suggesting Keenum + 1st for DT.

What pick would balance a Dak for McKinnon trade?

Is Dak + Woods + 1st for DT + McKinnon reasonable or too much in someone’s favor?

Roster:
QB JimmyG, Dak, Keenum, Bradford, McCarron, Foles
RB Gurley, Crowell, Cohen, Lynch/Martin, Sims, Carson
WR OBJ, Woods, Lockett, Parker, Maclin
TE Ebron, Shaheen
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12team dynasty .5ppr 2QB,2RB,2WR,2TE,1W/R

QB ARod, Cam, Eli
RB McCoy, McKinnon, Ajayi, Cohen, Montgomery, Kelly,
WR OBJ, Cooks, Cooper, Parker, Tre’quan, KCole
TE Eifert, Doyle, Butt, Shaheen, Watson, Herndon, Hollister
2109 picks: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
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2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1Flex-1LB-1DB
Ppr, .2pt per rush, .5per comp, 1pt/10 ret yd

QB Wilson, Cam, Bortles, Peterman
RB McCoy, Mixon, Cohen, Montgomery, Duke Johnson, Richard, Jones(GB), Javorius, Hines
WR Tyreek, Edelman, Watkins, Lockett, Smokey, Parker, Patterson, Cole
TE Olsen
LB Martinez
DB Peppers
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Re: 16-team offer

Postby skip » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:00 pm

Grimmer wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:19 pm
16-team 1QB league I was offered:
DT + Seals-Jones
for
Dak + Ebron + '19 1st (was pick 16 this year & getting OBJ back)

I was considering countering to replace DT with McKinnon. Thoughts? I don't pick til the end of the 4th round this season, but have all my picks next year.

Roster:
QB JimmyG, Dak, Keenum, Bradford, McCarron, Foles
RB Gurley, Crowell, Cohen, Lynch/Martin, Sims, Carson
WR OBJ, Woods, Lockett, Parker, Maclin
TE Ebron, Shaheen
I'm a DT fan but this seems steep in a 16 team league to pay Dak plus a 1st. Not sure what you mean about getting OBJ back? How is he involved in the deal?
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Re: 16-team offer

Postby Grimmer » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:03 pm

skip wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:00 pm
Grimmer wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:19 pm
16-team 1QB league I was offered:
DT + Seals-Jones
for
Dak + Ebron + '19 1st (was pick 16 this year & getting OBJ back)

I was considering countering to replace DT with McKinnon. Thoughts? I don't pick til the end of the 4th round this season, but have all my picks next year.

Roster:
QB JimmyG, Dak, Keenum, Bradford, McCarron, Foles
RB Gurley, Crowell, Cohen, Lynch/Martin, Sims, Carson
WR OBJ, Woods, Lockett, Parker, Maclin
TE Ebron, Shaheen
I'm a DT fan but this seems steep in a 16 team league to pay Dak plus a 1st. Not sure what you mean about getting OBJ back? How is he involved in the deal?
Sorry for the confusion... I ended up winning so I was pick 16 in 2018 and thanks to Gurley I managed it with OBJ hurt. I'll have him back this season so my pick should be late again (I'd hope).
12team dynasty .5ppr 2QB,2RB,2WR,2TE,1W/R

QB ARod, Cam, Eli
RB McCoy, McKinnon, Ajayi, Cohen, Montgomery, Kelly,
WR OBJ, Cooks, Cooper, Parker, Tre’quan, KCole
TE Eifert, Doyle, Butt, Shaheen, Watson, Herndon, Hollister
2109 picks: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
---------------------------------------------------
2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1Flex-1LB-1DB
Ppr, .2pt per rush, .5per comp, 1pt/10 ret yd

QB Wilson, Cam, Bortles, Peterman
RB McCoy, Mixon, Cohen, Montgomery, Duke Johnson, Richard, Jones(GB), Javorius, Hines
WR Tyreek, Edelman, Watkins, Lockett, Smokey, Parker, Patterson, Cole
TE Olsen
LB Martinez
DB Peppers
Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: 16-team offer

Postby skip » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:05 pm

Grimmer wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:03 pm
skip wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:00 pm
Grimmer wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:19 pm
16-team 1QB league I was offered:
DT + Seals-Jones
for
Dak + Ebron + '19 1st (was pick 16 this year & getting OBJ back)

I was considering countering to replace DT with McKinnon. Thoughts? I don't pick til the end of the 4th round this season, but have all my picks next year.

Roster:
QB JimmyG, Dak, Keenum, Bradford, McCarron, Foles
RB Gurley, Crowell, Cohen, Lynch/Martin, Sims, Carson
WR OBJ, Woods, Lockett, Parker, Maclin
TE Ebron, Shaheen
I'm a DT fan but this seems steep in a 16 team league to pay Dak plus a 1st. Not sure what you mean about getting OBJ back? How is he involved in the deal?
Sorry for the confusion... I ended up winning so I was pick 16 in 2018 and thanks to Gurley I managed it with OBJ hurt. I'll have him back this season so my pick should be late again (I'd hope).
Minimally if this is a trade you are considering, I'd remove Dak and put in Keenum or ideally Bradford in their place.
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Re: 16-team offer

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:07 pm

that deal isnt terrible but i also think your proposition likely doesnt appeal to him as hes willing to part with DT who is a WR and is older and you wanna ask for a young RB instead.

i dont hate the deal but i think you should be able to get DT for keenum + the first and keep dak (your qbs behind jimmy are a mess of injury problems and instability.)
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12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Kizer, Tyrod
Cohen, L Miller, CollinsForeman,J. Allen,Dixon , rawls, ty mont, Ivory,Ballage
K Allen, Evans, Hopkins, AlshonM. Williams, doctson, Meredith, Snead,MVS,Hamilton
Ertz Graham

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Dak Prescott, Bortles,Bradford
Fournette, J HowardMixon,D Henry, Chubb, Foreman, Yeldon,Gio,Perine
ty hill, Hopkins, AlshonD Thomas, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, Zay, C Coleman, M Bryant,Pryor
Gronk, Ertz


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Re: 16-team offer

Postby Goddard » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:33 pm

Dak side pretty easily here.

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Re: 16-team offer

Postby Grimmer » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:19 pm

He asked what I’d want to include Dak for DT or McKinnon and didn’t respond to me suggesting Keenum + 1st for DT.

What pick would balance a Dak for McKinnon trade?

Is Dak + Woods + 1st for DT + McKinnon reasonable or too much in someone’s favor?
12team dynasty .5ppr 2QB,2RB,2WR,2TE,1W/R

QB ARod, Cam, Eli
RB McCoy, McKinnon, Ajayi, Cohen, Montgomery, Kelly,
WR OBJ, Cooks, Cooper, Parker, Tre’quan, KCole
TE Eifert, Doyle, Butt, Shaheen, Watson, Herndon, Hollister
2109 picks: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
---------------------------------------------------
2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1Flex-1LB-1DB
Ppr, .2pt per rush, .5per comp, 1pt/10 ret yd

QB Wilson, Cam, Bortles, Peterman
RB McCoy, Mixon, Cohen, Montgomery, Duke Johnson, Richard, Jones(GB), Javorius, Hines
WR Tyreek, Edelman, Watkins, Lockett, Smokey, Parker, Patterson, Cole
TE Olsen
LB Martinez
DB Peppers
Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: 16-team offer

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:19 am

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:07 pm
that deal isnt terrible but i also think your proposition likely doesnt appeal to him as hes willing to part with DT who is a WR and is older and you wanna ask for a young RB instead.

i dont hate the deal but i think you should be able to get DT for keenum + the first and keep dak (your qbs behind jimmy are a mess of injury problems and instability.)
This. Plus in a start 1 qb league, there is no reason to roster 5 qbs.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
2015 Champion
2017 Champion

QB: Big Ben, Rivers
RB: Gurley, Kamara, Gore
WR: Julio, Keenan, Cooks, Sanders, Crabtree, A.Miller
TE: Kelce, Kittle

2019: 1, 2, 4

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Re: 16-team offer

Postby Grimmer » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:42 am

Orenthal Shames wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:19 am
BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:07 pm
that deal isnt terrible but i also think your proposition likely doesnt appeal to him as hes willing to part with DT who is a WR and is older and you wanna ask for a young RB instead.

i dont hate the deal but i think you should be able to get DT for keenum + the first and keep dak (your qbs behind jimmy are a mess of injury problems and instability.)
This. Plus in a start 1 qb league, there is no reason to roster 5 qbs.
I disagree. In a 16-team league with 25 player rosters, there’s a natural shortage of QBs so any starters can hold value. Foles was starting at end of season and McCarron was expected to potentially start somewhere. He ignored the Keenum suggestion.
12team dynasty .5ppr 2QB,2RB,2WR,2TE,1W/R

QB ARod, Cam, Eli
RB McCoy, McKinnon, Ajayi, Cohen, Montgomery, Kelly,
WR OBJ, Cooks, Cooper, Parker, Tre’quan, KCole
TE Eifert, Doyle, Butt, Shaheen, Watson, Herndon, Hollister
2109 picks: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
---------------------------------------------------
2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1Flex-1LB-1DB
Ppr, .2pt per rush, .5per comp, 1pt/10 ret yd

QB Wilson, Cam, Bortles, Peterman
RB McCoy, Mixon, Cohen, Montgomery, Duke Johnson, Richard, Jones(GB), Javorius, Hines
WR Tyreek, Edelman, Watkins, Lockett, Smokey, Parker, Patterson, Cole
TE Olsen
LB Martinez
DB Peppers
Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: 16-team offer

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:41 am

Grimmer wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:42 am
Orenthal Shames wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:19 am
BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:07 pm
that deal isnt terrible but i also think your proposition likely doesnt appeal to him as hes willing to part with DT who is a WR and is older and you wanna ask for a young RB instead.

i dont hate the deal but i think you should be able to get DT for keenum + the first and keep dak (your qbs behind jimmy are a mess of injury problems and instability.)
This. Plus in a start 1 qb league, there is no reason to roster 5 qbs.
I disagree. In a 16-team league with 25 player rosters, there’s a natural shortage of QBs so any starters can hold value. Foles was starting at end of season and McCarron was expected to potentially start somewhere. He ignored the Keenum suggestion.
With 400 players owned you have to stockpile talent, because waivers are so thin. Every roster spot is that much more valuable in a deep league.

That's why it makes no sense to waste 20% of your bench on middling qb options in a start 1 league. You miss out on loading up on the positions that win you leagues.
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
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QB: Big Ben, Rivers
RB: Gurley, Kamara, Gore
WR: Julio, Keenan, Cooks, Sanders, Crabtree, A.Miller
TE: Kelce, Kittle

2019: 1, 2, 4

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Re: 16-team offer

Postby Grimmer » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:26 am

That’s exactly why I have the extra QBs. The QB shortage is why we’re discussing being able to get McKinnon and/or DT using a QB. I used later picks or FA pickups to increase a natural position shortage due to # teams and roster size. I grabbed Foles because he was starting and leaving him a FA would give my finals opponent another option. I grabbed AJ McCarron because he was expected to start this season. The purpose of this thread was to seek help finding a trade, not explain supply and demand. If there were decent FA options better I’d have them. I’ll probably have fewer QBs after we cut non-keepers and draft this year (unless some rookie QBs fall and I add them too for trade options cause someone will be short)... especially if I find a way to acquire McKinnon and/or DT using some of these QBs I supposedly shouldn’t have. Then I can work on trying to repeat with my strategy you say doesn’t work. 🙂
12team dynasty .5ppr 2QB,2RB,2WR,2TE,1W/R

QB ARod, Cam, Eli
RB McCoy, McKinnon, Ajayi, Cohen, Montgomery, Kelly,
WR OBJ, Cooks, Cooper, Parker, Tre’quan, KCole
TE Eifert, Doyle, Butt, Shaheen, Watson, Herndon, Hollister
2109 picks: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
---------------------------------------------------
2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1Flex-1LB-1DB
Ppr, .2pt per rush, .5per comp, 1pt/10 ret yd

QB Wilson, Cam, Bortles, Peterman
RB McCoy, Mixon, Cohen, Montgomery, Duke Johnson, Richard, Jones(GB), Javorius, Hines
WR Tyreek, Edelman, Watkins, Lockett, Smokey, Parker, Patterson, Cole
TE Olsen
LB Martinez
DB Peppers
Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: 16-team offer

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:49 am

Any strategy can work. Praise be to Todd Gurley and that magical playoff run.

But if the QB thirst was as real as you're saying it is, you wouldn't be having to add a 1st on top of Dak to get DT.
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
2015 Champion
2017 Champion

QB: Big Ben, Rivers
RB: Gurley, Kamara, Gore
WR: Julio, Keenan, Cooks, Sanders, Crabtree, A.Miller
TE: Kelce, Kittle

2019: 1, 2, 4

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Re: 16-team offer

Postby IR1 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:04 am

Piling on the Dak side, just joined a 16 team and qbs are almost in superflex value
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Buckner, Jackson/Hunter, Heyward, Beasley, Barnett, /TSmith, Collins, Mack, MKendricks, Williamson, Olivier, DLeonard/Lattimore, Ramsey, Hayward/Burnett,Byard, HSmith IR Guice/DJones 19 1st x2

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Winston,Wentz, Allen, Flacco, Bridgewater/ Guice, Henry, Crowell, CJA, Mack, Martin, Brown, Scarbrough/ Evans, OBJ, Allen, Watkins, Shepard, Agholor, Meredith, Williams/ Gronk, Doyle, Watson, Goedert, Willson


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