Jameis Winston suspension?

[Pew Dogs]

Winston sucks

Normally I wouldn't question such deep analysis but when he returned for the last five weeks of the season last year he was the #1 QB in the league.

My only concern with him is whether he can change his personality. It can happen, but it requires an intentional decision and it isnt easy.

If any owner wants to dump off, I would buy.

[joeylitz]

Wonder if something like this affects how Tampa sees Winston long-term?

Have to imagine they'll finish at the bottom of the NFC South again in 2018, Koetter should get fired...does a new coach move on from Winston? Would definitely be a huge decision to throw in the towel on a #1 pick. Yes, he's still incredibly young but to me, he hasn't looked like a "game-changing" QB that maybe I thought he could have been.

Winston has improved in some areas but still hasn’t reached his full potential on the field. Why is that? Why is he still throwing a ton of picks? I have to think that it comes down to coaching and that if he had better coaches his skills would markedly improve.

Here’s a link from and NFL.com article that talks a bit about Winston’s future: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.co ... AEA&sr=amp

[bucsrule]

I never really liked Winston but that has more to do with him behaving like a schmuck and playing for Florida State, a.k.a. Wide Right University. (GO CANES).

It is pretty clear he's good as a fantasy QB. Just needs to grow up and treat others with respect.

[Pullo Vision]

Wonder if something like this affects how Tampa sees Winston long-term?

Have to imagine they'll finish at the bottom of the NFC South again in 2018, Koetter should get fired...does a new coach move on from Winston? Would definitely be a huge decision to throw in the towel on a #1 pick. Yes, he's still incredibly young but to me, he hasn't looked like a "game-changing" QB that maybe I thought he could have been.

On the can this morning, I was reading a debate about Winston's long term prospects. Some argued TB shouldn't pick up his 5th year option, some thought they should trade him, some thought they should just cut to the chase and cut him. Bizarre. I imagine there'd be teams who'd be interested in taking a flier even if it's on that 5th year option. Miami, Giants, New Orleans, NE would all be interesting destinations.

[Jason3123]

Zero chance Tampa Bay doesn't pick up his option. This suspension is for an alleged incident over 2 years ago. Jameis will have a bounce back season after having an injured shoulder last season and all the recency bias will wash away.

[FantasyFreak]

Zero chance Tampa Bay doesn't pick up his option. This suspension is for an alleged incident over 2 years ago. Jameis will have a bounce back season after having an injured shoulder last season and all the recency bias will wash away.

Agree with this, (about the option)but I don't think Winston will ever be that good. Serviceaable,even above average, but he will never justify his first overall pick status IMO. In FF that hardly matters, though.

The one thing I really want to know is: When Jameis eats "W's", do they taste like Crabs legs?

[Phaded]

...they already picked up his 5th year option in April, how is that a discussion?

[Jason3123]

...they already picked up his 5th year option in April, how is that a discussion?

Lol.

[Jason3123]

Zero chance Tampa Bay doesn't pick up his option. This suspension is for an alleged incident over 2 years ago. Jameis will have a bounce back season after having an injured shoulder last season and all the recency bias will wash away.

Agree with this, (about the option)but I don't think Winston will ever be that good. Serviceaable,even above average, but he will never justify his first overall pick status IMO. In FF that hardly matters, though.

The one thing I really want to know is: When Jameis eats "W's", do they taste like Crabs legs?

I think Jameis is someone who take several (many?) years to peak as a QB. He will be around a long-time, and for fantasy purposes, as that offense improves talent wise it'll only help elevate him. This offense has been pretty abysmal the last 2 seasons from O-line changes, lack of receivers/weapons, run game. Now he's got Evans who's about to enter his prime the next 3 years, OJ Howard, Brate, Godwin, D-Jax back, Ronald Jones, and I also wouldn't be surprised if he gets a coaching upgrade in the next year or two.

[FantasyFreak]

Now official. 3 games.

[Raymond1974]

Zero chance Tampa Bay doesn't pick up his option. This suspension is for an alleged incident over 2 years ago. Jameis will have a bounce back season after having an injured shoulder last season and all the recency bias will wash away.

Agree with this, (about the option)but I don't think Winston will ever be that good. Serviceaable,even above average, but he will never justify his first overall pick status IMO. In FF that hardly matters, though.

The one thing I really want to know is: When Jameis eats "W's", do they taste like Crabs legs?

I think Jameis is someone who take several (many?) years to peak as a QB. He will be around a long-time, and for fantasy purposes, as that offense improves talent wise it'll only help elevate him. This offense has been pretty abysmal the last 2 seasons from O-line changes, lack of receivers/weapons, run game. Now he's got Evans who's about to enter his prime the next 3 years, OJ Howard, Brate, Godwin, D-Jax back, Ronald Jones, and I also wouldn't be surprised if he gets a coaching upgrade in the next year or two.

I disagree. I think what you see is what you get with Winston,and I just don't think he has that "it" factor mentally. I don't own him but if I did I would be looking to sell.

[Phaded]

To say that a 24 year old quarterback cannot improve is a tad asinine.

[Servo]

Throwing out a random comparison but would you equate Winston today to someone like Bortles?

[Pullo Vision]

Throwing out a random comparison but would you equate Winston today to someone like Bortles?

There are significant differences. Winston's arm can keep him relevant even if his processing/decision-making doesn't improve. Bortles' saving grace is his mobility/legs.

If you're referring to dynasty value, still see them being waaay off.

[ninotoreS]

Considering today's update, I think it's plausible Tampa will select a QB with a Day 2 pick in '19 or '20. Especially if Koetter loses his job this year. A Day 1 pick would only mildly surprise me.

Winston's play to this point has been decent, but not special. Considered together with his off-the-field baggage, he's probably not going to command a contract in '20 of the sort that requires Tampa to go all-in on him long-term. Although this assumes his performance this season and next remains the same as before.