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Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:20 am
by brooklynkid
I don't understand how he slipped the cracks i didn't hear anything about him during the rookie draft around May. I should have saw it coming though, never was sold on Rawls because he was too injury prone and Lacy is trash. I would've thought Cj would have got more work though

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:27 pm
by DJB
Nice call OP.

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:53 am
by BuckeyeNation
"Time to pay attention". You know who didn't pay attention to Carson? .....This guy (points to self). :(

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:38 am
by Cameron Giles
My quesiton is:

Is it time to pay attention because he's actually very talented long-term?

or

Is it time to pay attention because Rawls isn't at full speed, Lacy is struggling and Prosise is just a receiving back?

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:20 am
by Friction
Talented long term is tough to say, but he has looked good this far. I did not think much of him at all because he did not look like much last year.

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:44 am
by dynastyninja
Long term value seems unlikely to me. Best case he's the starter for this season and next (if he's good enough that the Seahawks don't really need to focus on RB this offseason). That's valuable, but he doesn't strike me as a guy the FO will want to keep around as the primary guy. I'm still a Rawls believer, but even if he does fully pass Rawls he won't be a long-term play.

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:34 am
by rodneyquick
what type of return value would you need for carson? say high upside guys who haven't done much thus far. treadwell or doctson, or would you need an established WR like J Matthews or G Tate. trying to gauge carson value is difficult.

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:43 am
by dynastyninja
Carson's value for me is a 2nd. If I can move him for a 2nd or more then it's a win. I don't see it, even if he does have the starting role this year.

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:17 am
by MarcoPolo25
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:43 am Carson's value for me is a 2nd. If I can move him for a 2nd or more then it's a win. I don't see it, even if he does have the starting role this year.
I would second this right now. However, he will most likely shape up to be worth a 2018 1st to a contending team later in the 2017 season if he keeps the role and continues to produce. I am a fan and owner. Banged the drum early in the preseason. Do not see SEA investing in RB in the near future. They have too many holes in the oline. He fits what they like to do and has produced despite the terrible line. :thumbup:

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:43 am
by dynastyninja
MarcoPolo25 wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:17 am
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:43 am Carson's value for me is a 2nd. If I can move him for a 2nd or more then it's a win. I don't see it, even if he does have the starting role this year.
I would second this right now. However, he will most likely shape up to be worth a 2018 1st to a contending team later in the 2017 season if he keeps the role and continues to produce. I am a fan and owner. Banged the drum early in the preseason. Do not see SEA investing in RB in the near future. They have too many holes in the oline. He fits what they like to do and has produced despite the terrible line. :thumbup:
I can't blame anyone waiting for a 1st. I wouldn't want to risk it, though. I'd rather cash out and be glad I was able to add another asset.

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:52 am
by rodneyquick
I know wrong spot, but I got offered doctson for carson. take it and run?

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:14 am
by Space Cowboy
brooklynkid wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:20 am I don't understand how he slipped the cracks i didn't hear anything about him during the rookie draft around May. I should have saw it coming though, never was sold on Rawls because he was too injury prone and Lacy is trash. I would've thought Cj would have got more work though
He didn't even touch the ball that much at ok st. Great job as usual Seattle.

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:17 am
by Dr.Graffin
rodneyquick wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:52 am I know wrong spot, but I got offered doctson for carson. take it and run?
Yes wrong section, but definitely take it!!! I'm excited to hear that his value is that high at the moment.
Of course Carson could break out further over the course of the season and I'd say only then would the values be equal, so to get Doctson now is a win for you in terms of value, imo.

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:35 am
by Raymond1974
Who's starting him with confidence Sunday? Will he be the lead back and get 20 carries again,or does Rawls steal some of his snaps?

Re: Chris Carson - Time to pay attention

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:43 am
by Friction
Dr.Graffin wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:17 am
rodneyquick wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:52 am I know wrong spot, but I got offered doctson for carson. take it and run?
Yes wrong section, but definitely take it!!! I'm excited to hear that his value is that high at the moment.
Of course Carson could break out further over the course of the season and I'd say only then would the values be equal, so to get Doctson now is a win for you in terms of value, imo.
He will probably peak to Rawls like value next off season if he stays healthy and produces even modest numbers. I don't think he is a long term hold since Seattle has this weird RB trend lately and we all know the overall RB reliability outside of the top few guys is really hit or miss. I generally will flip a guy when I can make a generous, fast profit and only hold when I am really sold on his talent and situation. When a guy was free and I can get upwards of a first, I will almost never turn that down. That is how you end up turning the Charizard Wests of the world into guys like Fournette.