Postby Shoreline Steamers » Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:12 pm
mild wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:37 am
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:31 am
What blows me away, is Seattle chose Pete over Russ. When all is said and done, they basically gave up the same for a box safety as they got for a franchise/SB winning QB. Adams ended up costing a player, the 14th pick in 2021, plus that years 3rd rounder, and the 10th pick in 2022 for Adams and a 4th. Those 1sts would have quite a bit more value than where the Broncos firsts project to be. Sure, maybe the 2nd's make up a bit for it, but it's close enough in total value, that it's a joke. The Adams trade was nothing short of a disaster, and I can't believe ownership is that oblivious as to let a QB like Russ go over a GM and HC who are passed their expiry date. Petey should be chewing gum with his false teeth in a home, not coaching an NFL team that just traded a top end franchise QB.
You're bang on here, FF.
It's going to be seriously interesting to see how long SEA will stick with Pete if this starts going as rough as we think it might.
He might not look like one of the oldest coaches working in any league right now, but at some point you've really got to wonder how much longer a 70 year old guy is going to want to hang around if it starts going south.
And at that point... then what are you left with? Nothing that's future-facing, from the looks thus far.
I believe the franchise didn't exactly "choose" Pete and John over Russ per se. Russ, just like last offseason, came into the front office and gave them a list of teams he'd waive his no-trade clause to join (while claiming otherwise publicly). He asked to be dealt, because he didn't want to play their preferred style of ball any longer. He was done with them. He was obviously under contract, so they could have declined his request. But how would that be in the teams best interest? Keeping an unhappy player at the most important offensive position so he could stew in his resentment doesn't sound like a winning recipe. Or make for a cohesive locker room.
Jodi Allen could have decided that she needed to keep Russell at all costs and fire both Pete and John, then allow Russ to hand-pick his next head coach to keep him happy. I suppose that could have happened. Similar to how Rodgers got Mike McCarthy canned in Green Bay (and tried to get Gutekunst ousted as well). But even if she had done so, the organization was going to have to sign Russ to an incredibly expensive extension in 2022/2023, and they had already decided that's not how they wanted to do business moving forward.
I'm disappointed the relationship ended this way. I'm also not thrilled with the Jamal Adams trade. But I also think Seattle wanted to get off the ever expanding QB mega-contract train. We'll see how many Super Bowls KC, Cleveland, Buffalo, Denver and like the like win in the next 5 years or so. Part of the reason Brady won as many Super Bowls as he did in New England is because he took below market value compensation to keep the team around him competitive. It seems not many other QB's are interested in following in his footsteps in that regard.
Seattle was a winning team with Russ on his rookie deal. Since his extension they've been a good team, but not great. It may blow up in their collective faces, but they're hitting the reset button and putting more resources into the rest of the team. They believe they can win it all with a competent, not dominant QB at the helm. We'll see if this approach works or not. But even if Russell had stayed in Seattle and finished out his contract, this current team wasn't going anywhere. They have holes at too many positions, and not enough resources to fill them all. Unfortunately, a reset was probably in everyone's best interests.
I'm no fan of Drew Lock, Baker Mayfield, Matt Ryan, or any of the rookie options available in 2022. As painful as it is, I think Seattle's best bet is to roll with what they've got and suffer through a tough season. Then they can look to get their QB of the future in 2023 when they'll have a couple first round picks and more attractive options at the position. Go Mariners! It's all we've got out here for now unfortunately.
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TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan
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