2019 1st or Penny

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2019 1st or Penny

Postby MonkeyMafia » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:15 am

I got an offer of Penny for my 2019 1st. I'm expecting it to be around a mid to early mid first. Starters are 1Q 2-3R 3-4W 1-2T. The team in question is

Wilson, Cousins
Cook, Duke, Mack, Royce Freeman, Gore, Ballage, Yeldon
AJG, Funchess, Agholor, Darboh, Matthews, Meredith, Sutton, Lewis, J. Moore, JJ Nelson, Rogers, Perriman, Wilson
Rudolph, Doyle, Everett

I don't think my WR's are strong enough to make a playoff push, but are good enough to be serviceable for this year. The rest of the roster I think should have me on the fringe of contention and thus moving my pick towards the mid range. Good trade to make or nah? I'm leaning towards yes, but would like feedback before I impulse buy a shiny rookie.

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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby hudini33 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:20 am

I probably wouldn't do that. I'm not huge on Penny, but he I wouldn't pay the chance at a better player for him. The other guy needs to sweeten the pot if he's already trying to trade his rookie pick.
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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby fantasyhermit » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:23 am

I'd take that trade.
Team 1:
12 team SF PPR/2PPR TE Prem, .2 ppc
Q-SF-R-W-F-F-F-F-T-T
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Fitz, Flacco, Lock
RB: Jacobs, CEH, DJ, Dillon, Michel, Royce, Lewis, Bruce Anderson, Gus, Warren
WR: MT, Amari, Kupp, Pittman, Miller, Agholor, John Brown, Enunwa, Foster, Wilson, Preston Williams, AB
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Tonyan, Davis, Dissly, Knox, T.Moss


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QB: Mahomes, TLaw, Darnold, Bridgewater
RB: Zeke, Swift, Singletary, Dillon, Mack, Penny, LMurray
WR: MT, DJ Moore, Sutton, Slayton, Tyler Boyd, Mims, Edwards, Van Jefferson, Miller
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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby jwb32 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:25 am

Penny was an early pick this year. So buying for an early/mid 2019 pick is great value.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby ddaps » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:38 am

I think that's a very good trade for you. Penny is going around pick 2-4 in a lot of drafts so unless you're positive that 2019 pick will be top 3 you win this trade easily IMO. He would also help solidify your RBs, who have a lot of question marks outside of Cook.
12 team PPR, 1QB/2WR/2RB/1TE/2Flex
QB: Newton, Allen
RB: Conner, A. Jones, Penny, A.P, J. Samuels, J. Williams, Edwards
WR: Evans, Thielen, Godwin, Coutee, Samuel, M. Lee, D. Parker, AB
TE: Kittle, Everett, Gronk

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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:41 am

Penny unless you're pretty confident that'll be the 1.1

Your team, adding Penny, my guess is 1.5 or 1.6 so definitely Penny
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby bills2 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:43 am

Like daps mentioned Penny was going 2-4 in a lot of drafts. It would cost more than just a 2019 1st to get 1.02-1.04 so the value is on the Penny side for sure. Just don't finish last lol.

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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:59 am

Penny = 1.02 >> 2019 1st
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby Mathew11 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:32 am

Make him add his second this year and i would do it.
12 team 1.0 PPR Dynasty league
QB: Rodgers
2WR: Brown, Adams, C.Davis, Fuller V.
2RB: Bell, Kamara, Henry
1TE: Gronk
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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby MonkeyMafia » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:44 am

Draft has already concluded for this year. It seems like I would be getting greedy if I ask him to add to the Penny side.

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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby Vcize » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:47 am

I feel like I'm in bizarro world here. A top 5 rookie pick this year (which Penny is) is worth at LEAST two 2019 1sts, probably with an additional 2nd thrown in on top of that. Again, at least.

So one 2019 1st for a top 5 pick this year? No brainer.
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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby jwb32 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:51 am

MonkeyMafia wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:44 am Draft has already concluded for this year. It seems like I would be getting greedy if I ask him to add to the Penny side.
Yes, you would be getting greedy.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby TTHTD » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:34 pm

Penny, easily. I'd snap accept that trade. If nothing else you can get double that for him during preseason when the bellcow hype builds.

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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby GreenAndWhite81 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:39 pm

Vcize wrote: Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:47 am I feel like I'm in bizarro world here. A top 5 rookie pick this year (which Penny is) is worth at LEAST two 2019 1sts, probably with an additional 2nd thrown in on top of that. Again, at least.

So one 2019 1st for a top 5 pick this year? No brainer.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. And I'm not even sold on Penny.

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Re: 2019 1st or Penny

Postby Hottoddies » Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:48 pm

This is a total no brainer. You would have the use of Penny for the year and you could trade him away the next for more than a mid 1st.
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