Top seven Dynasty startup players
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Top seven Dynasty startup players
I am in a start up dynasty league and I am picking at seventh overall. The league is PPR 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 kicker and defense, and 1 flex. I want my team to be young at its core, so I want young guys with my first picks. Here is my top seven right now,
1. OBJ
2. Nuk
3. Gurley
4. Zeke
5. Barkley
6. Kamara
7. Michael Thomas
Is there anything I should change? Am I overvalueing wide recievers?
1. OBJ
2. Nuk
3. Gurley
4. Zeke
5. Barkley
6. Kamara
7. Michael Thomas
Is there anything I should change? Am I overvalueing wide recievers?
Team 1 start up 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX 1D/ST 1K
QB: Jameis Winston, Davis Webb
RB: Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, Mark Walton, Christine Michael, CJ Prosise, Kenneth Dixon, Akrum Wadley
WR: Odell Beckham Jr, Juju Smith-Schuster, Calvin Ridley, John Ross, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Carlos Henderson, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel
TE: George Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews
Team 2 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB 1FLEX1D/ST 1K
QB: Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarren, Josh McCown
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, James White, Ameer Abdullah, Jalen Richard, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, J.D. McKissic
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Pierre Garcon, Mohamed Sanu, Albert Wilson, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Evan Engram, Jake Butt, Rico Gathers
QB: Jameis Winston, Davis Webb
RB: Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, Mark Walton, Christine Michael, CJ Prosise, Kenneth Dixon, Akrum Wadley
WR: Odell Beckham Jr, Juju Smith-Schuster, Calvin Ridley, John Ross, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Carlos Henderson, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel
TE: George Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews
Team 2 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB 1FLEX1D/ST 1K
QB: Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarren, Josh McCown
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, James White, Ameer Abdullah, Jalen Richard, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, J.D. McKissic
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Pierre Garcon, Mohamed Sanu, Albert Wilson, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Evan Engram, Jake Butt, Rico Gathers
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David Johnson, AB (+Bell?) probably belong here before the Saints
I also think Thomas before Brown would be mistake, I understand you want a young core, but Brown is consistently dominant
I also think Thomas before Brown would be mistake, I understand you want a young core, but Brown is consistently dominant
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How many elite years can I expect from those three guys though? I am not trying to win now.
Team 1 start up 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX 1D/ST 1K
QB: Jameis Winston, Davis Webb
RB: Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, Mark Walton, Christine Michael, CJ Prosise, Kenneth Dixon, Akrum Wadley
WR: Odell Beckham Jr, Juju Smith-Schuster, Calvin Ridley, John Ross, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Carlos Henderson, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel
TE: George Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews
Team 2 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB 1FLEX1D/ST 1K
QB: Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarren, Josh McCown
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, James White, Ameer Abdullah, Jalen Richard, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, J.D. McKissic
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Pierre Garcon, Mohamed Sanu, Albert Wilson, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Evan Engram, Jake Butt, Rico Gathers
QB: Jameis Winston, Davis Webb
RB: Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, Mark Walton, Christine Michael, CJ Prosise, Kenneth Dixon, Akrum Wadley
WR: Odell Beckham Jr, Juju Smith-Schuster, Calvin Ridley, John Ross, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Carlos Henderson, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel
TE: George Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews
Team 2 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB 1FLEX1D/ST 1K
QB: Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarren, Josh McCown
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, James White, Ameer Abdullah, Jalen Richard, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, J.D. McKissic
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Pierre Garcon, Mohamed Sanu, Albert Wilson, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Evan Engram, Jake Butt, Rico Gathers
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1. OBJ
2. Gurley
3. Zeke
4. Hopkins
5. Barkley
6. Mike Evans
7. David Johnson
2. Gurley
3. Zeke
4. Hopkins
5. Barkley
6. Mike Evans
7. David Johnson
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, MJones, CNewton, RFitz
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, JMixon, AJDillon, LMurray, DarWilliams, GBernard
WR: SDiggs, ACooper, BAiyuk, JJones, LShenault, BCooks, KToney, KHamler, VJefferson
TE: JSmith, ISmith, ZErtz
Team 2 - 16 team, PPR, SF
QB: JBurrow, CWentz, ZWilson, Jimmy G
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, BSnell, TGurley, DGuice
WR: JChase, BAiyuk, CSutton, THiggins, JJeudy, JReagor, BEdwards
TE: ISmith, HarBryant, DSample, TTremble
QB: MRyan, MJones, CNewton, RFitz
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, JMixon, AJDillon, LMurray, DarWilliams, GBernard
WR: SDiggs, ACooper, BAiyuk, JJones, LShenault, BCooks, KToney, KHamler, VJefferson
TE: JSmith, ISmith, ZErtz
Team 2 - 16 team, PPR, SF
QB: JBurrow, CWentz, ZWilson, Jimmy G
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, BSnell, TGurley, DGuice
WR: JChase, BAiyuk, CSutton, THiggins, JJeudy, JReagor, BEdwards
TE: ISmith, HarBryant, DSample, TTremble
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Kamara has no business in this conversation. He had a dominant year but he's the biggest regression candidate in recent memory.
Unless he is literally the greatest RB of all time he is going to disappoint anyone banking on numbers similar to last year.
Unless he is literally the greatest RB of all time he is going to disappoint anyone banking on numbers similar to last year.
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Than what young player would you replace him with?CharlieKelly wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 3:53 pm Kamara has no business in this conversation. He had a dominant year but he's the biggest regression candidate in recent memory.
Unless he is literally the greatest RB of all time he is going to disappoint anyone banking on numbers similar to last year.
Team 1 start up 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX 1D/ST 1K
QB: Jameis Winston, Davis Webb
RB: Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, Mark Walton, Christine Michael, CJ Prosise, Kenneth Dixon, Akrum Wadley
WR: Odell Beckham Jr, Juju Smith-Schuster, Calvin Ridley, John Ross, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Carlos Henderson, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel
TE: George Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews
Team 2 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB 1FLEX1D/ST 1K
QB: Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarren, Josh McCown
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, James White, Ameer Abdullah, Jalen Richard, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, J.D. McKissic
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Pierre Garcon, Mohamed Sanu, Albert Wilson, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Evan Engram, Jake Butt, Rico Gathers
QB: Jameis Winston, Davis Webb
RB: Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, Mark Walton, Christine Michael, CJ Prosise, Kenneth Dixon, Akrum Wadley
WR: Odell Beckham Jr, Juju Smith-Schuster, Calvin Ridley, John Ross, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Carlos Henderson, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel
TE: George Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews
Team 2 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB 1FLEX1D/ST 1K
QB: Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarren, Josh McCown
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, James White, Ameer Abdullah, Jalen Richard, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, J.D. McKissic
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Pierre Garcon, Mohamed Sanu, Albert Wilson, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Evan Engram, Jake Butt, Rico Gathers
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Kamara is a huge gamble, and will most likely regress. But, he was the #3 ranked RB last season, and Ingram is going to miss the first four games this season, and likely won't be back next.
Personally, I'd have a hard time passing on AB, but if OP wants to go young then I can fully understand AK. He looked absolutely insane at only what, 22 years old?
Personally, I'd have a hard time passing on AB, but if OP wants to go young then I can fully understand AK. He looked absolutely insane at only what, 22 years old?
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As has been mentioned many times Kamara’s “Doomsday” regression will likely be compensated by increased usage. Remember he was the third RB the first 5 games until they traded Peterson. He only led the team in touches the last 6 games, not counting the game when he got a concusion in the first quarter.CharlieKelly wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 3:53 pm Kamara has no business in this conversation. He had a dominant year but he's the biggest regression candidate in recent memory.
Unless he is literally the greatest RB of all time he is going to disappoint anyone banking on numbers similar to last year.
Being a semi feature back Kamra could see very well 200 carries and 100 catches. Keep in mind Kamara had more catches than Amari Cooper. He is a stud.
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Any number of bell cow RBs who get more than 15 carries per game. DJ, Bell, Fournette, Hunt, Cook.Ethan Thomas Jr wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 4:16 pmThan what young player would you replace him with?CharlieKelly wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 3:53 pm Kamara has no business in this conversation. He had a dominant year but he's the biggest regression candidate in recent memory.
Unless he is literally the greatest RB of all time he is going to disappoint anyone banking on numbers similar to last year.
I doubt a lot of people will agree with me but i'd rather bet my money on a RB who gets 25 touches per game and averages 4.8 YPC and 7 YPR than betting on a RB who gets 15 touches per game and hope that he continues to rush for 6 YPC and 10 YPR.
The former is a reasonable prediction on a yearly basis, the latter is not.
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Payton's already said that he's not planning on increasing Kamara's usage substantially. He's always used a multi-back system to keep his guys fresh.Rasorin wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 4:30 pmAs has been mentioned many times Kamara’s “Doomsday” regression will likely be compensated by increased usage. Remember he was the third RB the first 5 games until they traded Peterson. He only led the team in touches the last 6 games, not counting the game when he got a concusion in the first quarter.CharlieKelly wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 3:53 pm Kamara has no business in this conversation. He had a dominant year but he's the biggest regression candidate in recent memory.
Unless he is literally the greatest RB of all time he is going to disappoint anyone banking on numbers similar to last year.
Being a semi feature back Kamra could see very well 200 carries and 100 catches. Keep in mind Kamara had more catches than Amari Cooper. He is a stud.
200 carries and 100 receptions is not a "semi-featured" role. That's a full fledged feature back role. So Kamara either becomes a workhorse back and per touch numbers regress or he doesn't and his per touch numbers regress.
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I think it’s a mistake to go into a startup with a rebuild mindset. You’re going to be leaving a lot of value on the table if you insist on an ageist “strategy.” If AB is there at the seventh pick, you’d be crazy to pass on him. You can always flip him later in the season if it looks like you’re not going to be competitive right out of the gate. You really need to just go BPA for at least the first 4-5 rounds and then determine if your team is built to win now or in the future and then draft accordingly from there.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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I like this list. Maybe one or two up/down but i like this top 7 in general. Evans is severly underrated off recency bias where he played with an injured jameis and fitz. Set up and locked in with a young franchise qb for years. It was only this time a year ago recency bias on hopkins pushed him down to a steal of a value last year.
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X2, and what needs to be considered is that the goal in the end is to winM-Dub wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 5:34 pm I think it’s a mistake to go into a startup with a rebuild mindset. You’re going to be leaving a lot of value on the table if you insist on an ageist “strategy.” If AB is there at the seventh pick, you’d be crazy to pass on him. You can always flip him later in the season if it looks like you’re not going to be competitive right out of the gate. You really need to just go BPA for at least the first 4-5 rounds and then determine if your team is built to win now or in the future and then draft accordingly from there.
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Um, why??Ethan Thomas Jr wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 3:15 pmHow many elite years can I expect from those three guys though? I am not trying to win now.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
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I ment I am not in win now/all in mode. I would love to win out of the gate, but I want a young core team to build around. I do not want players that will be out of the league in three years.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 5:45 pmUm, why??Ethan Thomas Jr wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 3:15 pmHow many elite years can I expect from those three guys though? I am not trying to win now.
Team 1 start up 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX 1D/ST 1K
QB: Jameis Winston, Davis Webb
RB: Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, Mark Walton, Christine Michael, CJ Prosise, Kenneth Dixon, Akrum Wadley
WR: Odell Beckham Jr, Juju Smith-Schuster, Calvin Ridley, John Ross, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Carlos Henderson, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel
TE: George Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews
Team 2 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB 1FLEX1D/ST 1K
QB: Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarren, Josh McCown
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, James White, Ameer Abdullah, Jalen Richard, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, J.D. McKissic
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Pierre Garcon, Mohamed Sanu, Albert Wilson, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Evan Engram, Jake Butt, Rico Gathers
QB: Jameis Winston, Davis Webb
RB: Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Nick Chubb, Mark Walton, Christine Michael, CJ Prosise, Kenneth Dixon, Akrum Wadley
WR: Odell Beckham Jr, Juju Smith-Schuster, Calvin Ridley, John Ross, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Carlos Henderson, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel
TE: George Kittle, Hunter Henry, Mark Andrews
Team 2 16 team PPR 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WR/RB 1FLEX1D/ST 1K
QB: Marcus Mariota, AJ McCarren, Josh McCown
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, James White, Ameer Abdullah, Jalen Richard, Jeremy Hill, Chris Ivory, J.D. McKissic
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Pierre Garcon, Mohamed Sanu, Albert Wilson, Torrey Smith, Terrance Williams, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Evan Engram, Jake Butt, Rico Gathers
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