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Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:01 pm
by Bot101
ArrylT wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:57 pm
Bot101 wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:55 pm
spotxc wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:43 pm I wonder why Ridley is such a faller ?
Outside of running in a straight line, he did nothing that made me rewind anything he did and watch again. Poor Sparq, poor breakout age, average dominator rating and hes on top of all that hes old. There's nothing outside of age thats a real big red flag either. Hes like an unbuttered piece of toast.
I like toast - you can add so many different things to it to make it taste delicious.

Butter
Nutella
Jam
Jelly
Cottage Cheese
etc ...
Hes just the toast. No toppings.

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:05 pm
by ArrylT
In case this discussion is making you hungry here is a link to some different types of toast

https://www.leaf.tv/articles/types-of-toast/

But moving back to Ridley that doesnt mean he wont be nutritious & delicious to the right NFL team.

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:28 pm
by whodunnit
ArrylT wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:57 pm
Bot101 wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:55 pm
spotxc wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:43 pm I wonder why Ridley is such a faller ?
Outside of running in a straight line, he did nothing that made me rewind anything he did and watch again. Poor Sparq, poor breakout age, average dominator rating and hes on top of all that hes old. There's nothing outside of age thats a real big red flag either. Hes like an unbuttered piece of toast.
I like toast - you can add so many different things to it to make it taste delicious.

Butter
Nutella
Jam
Jelly
Cottage Cheese
etc ...
gross

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:50 pm
by spotxc
He tests similar to Amari, a tad below in most aspects. Amari was no good jumper either but fast and agile like ridley

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:51 pm
by spotxc
Breakout age was beyond his control cause he was a freshman at that age he broke out, but was older for some reason. It is what it is, buts it good to see him breakout first year.. He is a tricky one

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:12 pm
by iluvbeer99
This WR class is embarrassingly bad for top end talent. Some decent WR's but i wouldn't feel good about taking any of them before late 1st round in rookie drafts. The strength is at RB.

1)Barkley
2)Chubb
3)Guice
4)Michel
5)RJII
6)Penny
7)Kerryon Johnson
8)R. Freeman
9)Ballage
10)Scarborough
11)DJ Moore
12)Michael Gallop

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:33 pm
by Bot101
1 Barkley
2 Chubb
2 Guice
4 Michel
5 Freeman
6 Penny
7 Moore
8 Sutton
9 Ridley
10 Jones II
11 Scarbrough
12 Gesicki

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:41 pm
by Bot101
spotxc wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:50 pm He tests similar to Amari, a tad below in most aspects. Amari was no good jumper either but fast and agile like ridley

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/amari-cooper/

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/calvin-ridley/

They test nothing alike outside of their 40 time.

Breakout age

Cooper 99th percentile
Ridley 43rd percentile


College dominator

Cooper 93rd percentile
Ridley 51st percentile


Oh and they are both 23, but Cooper has been in the league 3 years already. I dont see it at all.

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:26 am
by hjernazian
why is Ronald Jones either falling out of favor, or left off completely out of these rankings? Isn't he in tier 2 of 5-6 backs, after tier 1 being Saquon and Saquon alone? Personally, I'd love it if Ridley or Rojo fell to me at 1.07.

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:28 am
by nathanq42
Barkley - obviously
Guice - very good runner, came in with great size and speed
Chubb - proved that he has some good speed and burst to him to go along with his intangibles as a runner, great size
Rojo - didn't help his stock but Michel hurt his imo
Michel - good size, did not do as well on the 40 as I thought he would, had to knock him down because speed is his game
Moore - this guy is a beast of an athlete, I can't wait to see what he does with a decent QB
Ballage - size and speed are reminiscent of DJ, needs to work on burst to accelerate quicker
Penny - good size and speed, very could be better but broad jump was nice, amazing production against questionable competition
Ridley - athleticism and speed on tape are deadly, dude is like a rocket out there regardless of what he did at the combine, but he didn't help himself
Sutton - amazing size and speed, what surprised me the most was that he had one of the best 3 cone drills of the combine
Washington - great production, solid build, is a monster on 50/50 balls. Didn't do many things in college, but what he did he was amazing at. Surprisingly for a deep threat guy his 40 wasn't amazing
John Kelly - didn't do himself any favours on the 3 cone drill or by skipping the 40. Glad to see him weigh in at 216 and look good in drills though. Tape don't lie, but I am not a fan of his speed, the 40 would have been big for him.

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:43 am
by clarion contrarion
if the cowboys draft ridley will he be texas toast ?
what about detroit will he be french toast ?
damn I think I will have texas french toast for breakfast
as a word of caution your top 12 should change very little based on the combine only glaring red flags like a serious injury concern of which none occurred to the best of my knowledge or a failed drug test should move guys more than a spot or two.
I saw few mentions of scarborough/gesicki in the top 12 or jones out of the top 12 and the combine should not change that imho!
When I watch tape sutton doesn't appear to be a great athlete regardless of the testing - he looks like josh doctson 2.0 a jump ball guy from a lesser school that has put frighteningly few big time skill prospects into the NFL.

I will wait to post my top 12 as I have a draft starting tuesday morning with several forum guys in it but rest assured it didn't change much and none of the TE in this class are close nor a teams 3rd or perhaps 4th best rb.

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:11 am
by lukkynumber13
Saquon
-
Guice
Chubb
-
Jones
Michel
Ridley
Sutton
DJ Moore
Washington
Penny
-
ESB
K. Johnson

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:54 am
by C_n_red_again
A user posted earlier that Sutton didn’t have a good combine. :nono: Well damn a 4.57 three cone and a 4.11 short shuttle are Christian mcafrey levels and at his size are truly truly elite. 4.54 forty was good a vert of 36 inches is good also and his broad jump was also above average. Dude has large hands and a wingspan of someone that’s 6”6”. Jesus if he didn’t have a good combine some of you people have unreal expectations. Dudes 6”3.5” and 220. What he did at his size is way more impressive to me than Ridley and and some of those other WRs who are 6 ft and barely scratching 200. Oh and he ran all the drills as smoothly as anyone out there and his hands were clean as well.

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:34 am
by spotxc
Coop
4.42 SEC
33.0 INCH
120.0 INCH
6.71 SEC
3.98 SEC

Ridley
4.43 SEC
15 REPS
31.0 INCH
110.0 INCH
6.88 SEC
4.41 SE

Tests similar is not similar in breakout age, dominator, or current age. Its combine performance
Id say speed is similar and lack of jump is similar and both agile with 3 cone, Amari a little better like i said..I can't help you if you can't see it, but most should

Re: POST COMBINE Rookie top 12 PPR

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:38 am
by Bot101
Those numbers arent similar outside of 40 time like I mentioned before. So I guess I dont see it.