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Jackson's accuracy is fine. All these negative comments are just the same narrative coming from a league that's never been accepting of black quarterbacks (Yeah, I caught the interview jab bud...). The kids 6'2 and Polian talking about he's too short to play qb? It's actually laughable. He's better than Vick was (hell Vick has even come out and said it) and he is coming into the league at a time when the Jeff Fischer's of the world are being replaced with fresh young minds who can develop this kind of talent and formulate schemes to maximize its success. I think his ceiling (given the right situation) is a Wilson/Vick hybrid and that's pretty scary.pierson242 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:06 pmAgain there’s more to football than numbers on paper. Nothing I say will change your mind. But hey agree to disagree it’s good to have this section get action!benpickering44 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:03 pmi'm not sure why your trusting Bill Polian and his ridiculous opinions, but here are there passing stats side by sidepierson242 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:27 pm
The reports that are already headlined "Jackson a better fit at WR" is what worries me. Im not doubting his athleticism but ive never thought it would translate well to the NFL. Braxton Miller, RG3, etc
They also shared the same completion %, and ill agree Jackson had more yards and TDs but he also had nearly 150 more pass attempts. Numbers are not everything.
Also your comparing 2017. In 2016 Allen had nearly identical yards and TDs as Jackson, he has a bad 2017, but the Talent is still there.
Jackson
Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
*2016 Louisville ACC SO QB 13 230 409 56.2 3543 8.7 9.1 30 9 148.8
*2017 Louisville ACC JR QB 13 254 430 59.1 3660 8.5 8.7 27 10 146.6
Allen
Passing
Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
*2016 Wyoming MWC SO QB 14 209 373 56.0 3203 8.6 8.3 28 15 144.9
*2017 Wyoming MWC JR QB 11 152 270 56.3 1812 6.7 6.9 16 6 127.8
Jackson is clearly the better passer, and he improved every single year as a passer, while Allen regressed in 2017. Allen has a somewhat high ceiling, but it isn't anywhere close to Jackson's ceiling.
arguments that he should switch to wr are laughable.
I think Darnold is the best pure QB out of the bunch, but I can't help but think of the lack of success USC QB's have... I know it may just be a correlation, but it's hard to ignore.
I disagree with Giants being good on paper. "Great weapons" is overstated as well, yes; we all know about OBJ. Beyond that - there isn't elite options. I think the Browns are actually the best landing spot for a QB (never thought I would say that).Servo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:50 am How would you rank landing spots for these QBs?
So far, I'm thinking:
Good on Paper: Browns (Good OL, Decent Weapons, Crap HC/Owner), Giants (OL is atrocious but great weapons)
Bad on Paper: Bills (Real bad WR corps), Dolphins (Feels like the sparkles of Adam Gase are wearing off big time)
On the Fence on Paper: Jets?, Broncos? Cardinals?
Wonder if a team like Baltimore or Cincy wind up taking a QB unexpectedly? It'd probably be more believable that they'd take a Mason Rudolph type.
Well, I still think I'd take OBJ, Shepard, Engram over Benjamin/Zay/Clay or Robby/Kearse/Walford or Stills/Parker/AJ Derby but I get what you're saying.Phaded wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:46 pm I disagree with Giants being good on paper. "Great weapons" is overstated as well, yes; we all know about OBJ. Beyond that - there isn't elite options. I think the Browns are actually the best landing spot for a QB (never thought I would say that).
The other 5 teams you mentioned all seem bad on paper to me - nothing about the coaching staffs or teams around them seem great to me.
I kind of don't. I don't know how you could discount Shephard coming off a rookie and an injured year, and Engram coming off a historic and unprecedented rookie breakout year, albeit all the targets were his. I think you give any of the big 5 QBs (really) a chance while these guys develop for a year or two (even more), with the possibility of the NYG drafting a RB high, and adding to a defense, WHILE learning under Eli, and it's a perfect recipe. And the only thing I personally like about the Giants is that they beat the Patriots.Servo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:04 pmWell, I still think I'd take OBJ, Shepard, Engram over Benjamin/Zay/Clay or Robby/Kearse/Walford or Stills/Parker/AJ Derby but I get what you're saying.Phaded wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:46 pm I disagree with Giants being good on paper. "Great weapons" is overstated as well, yes; we all know about OBJ. Beyond that - there isn't elite options. I think the Browns are actually the best landing spot for a QB (never thought I would say that).
The other 5 teams you mentioned all seem bad on paper to me - nothing about the coaching staffs or teams around them seem great to me.