Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke?? UPDATE (OBJ?)

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Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke?? UPDATE (OBJ?)

Postby vbbish » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:44 am

Hey guys,

Well team 2 in my sig is killing it this year. Going head to head with the other 8-1 team in the league and coming out as the winner!

I have the highest points scored and now best record @ 9-1

After a couple of good games the Zeke owner in our league (also rebuilding) asked me if I would move Kamara & all 3 of my firsts for Zeke. Now this would take away a productive starter from my lineup and leave me with nothing for this seasons push. It would also take away the firsts which I was thinking about using to gain some additional pieces for the push. But this would also give me Zeke, Fournette & Gurley for next season.

I think I can get him down to 2 firsts, but am still not sure I should do it

Thoughts!?

***UPDATE: Was offered OBJ & Riddick for Kamara, mid to late first & Hogan****
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby eraldo_coil » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:12 am

You're on a winning trajectory, don't mess it up with the Zeke headache. Keep Kamara and win the ship, then sell him for a kings ransom in the offseason while still keeping your firsts. I just don't see the point in messing with your lineup right now.
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby RB6 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:20 am

eraldo_coil wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:12 am You're on a winning trajectory, don't mess it up with the Zeke headache. Keep Kamara and win the ship, then sell him for a kings ransom in the offseason while still keeping your firsts. I just don't see the point in messing with your lineup right now.
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby Balzac » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:37 am

Kamara easily. Zeke is overrated.
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:37 am

In your position, you're here to win a championship so keep winning with Kamara and win the ship. Don't chance that

See if he's still interested in the deal in the offseason. Kamara is playing so well though, it could be down to only a first of difference. Kamara has been a phenomenal fantasy back with his big play ability and ppr usage. Especially since his rookie adp was early 2nd round
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby Spongehack » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:47 am

Balzac wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:37 am Kamara easily. Zeke is overrated.
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby joeday » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:48 am

If you were 1-9 this would be a no brainer accept in my opinion. If you had a more viable WR or RB to FLEX if you made this trade it would be close to a no brainer. In your situation, as mentioned above, don't mess with a good thing...unless the Zeke owner can throw in another playable piece to help you this year (Dem, Fitzgerald, etc).
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby Never Veto1 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:00 am

joeday wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:48 am If you were 1-9 this would be a no brainer accept in my opinion. If you had a more viable WR or RB to FLEX if you made this trade it would be close to a no brainer. In your situation, as mentioned above, don't mess with a good thing...unless the Zeke owner can throw in another playable piece to help you this year (Dem, Fitzgerald, etc).
Why would it be a no brainer accept if they were 1-9? At 1-9 those (3) 1st and Kamara are way more valuable than Zeke, I personally think they are more valuable right now at 9-1. I would possibly trade Kamara and a 1st for Zeke, but not till after the season.
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby green grinch » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:12 am

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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby joeday » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:17 am

Never Veto wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:00 am
joeday wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:48 am If you were 1-9 this would be a no brainer accept in my opinion. If you had a more viable WR or RB to FLEX if you made this trade it would be close to a no brainer. In your situation, as mentioned above, don't mess with a good thing...unless the Zeke owner can throw in another playable piece to help you this year (Dem, Fitzgerald, etc).
Why would it be a no brainer accept if they were 1-9? At 1-9 those (3) 1st and Kamara are way more valuable than Zeke, I personally think they are more valuable right now at 9-1. I would possibly trade Kamara and a 1st for Zeke, but not till after the season.
because with his team being 1-9 I would consider bad luck...you would be adding an elite player to bounce back next year. I suppose 1-9 is a bit hyperbolic...I meant more out of the hunt.
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby Goddard » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:27 am

Man, I don't know. I think your team might still be able to compete even without Kamara, but obviously makes it harder. I'd have a difficult time passing up on that value for Zeke though. See if you can keep Kamara and get him for the three 1sts instead, and maybe even add something small on top (maybe he's high on Foreman). That way you keep Kamara and still get Zeke.

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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby vbbish » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:43 am

Goddard wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:27 am Man, I don't know. I think your team might still be able to compete even without Kamara, but obviously makes it harder. I'd have a difficult time passing up on that value for Zeke though. See if you can keep Kamara and get him for the three 1sts instead, and maybe even add something small on top (maybe he's high on Foreman). That way you keep Kamara and still get Zeke.
I offered him 3 firsts & Foreman and he declined. I know he is high on H. Henry, would you do 3 firsts & HH??
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke??

Postby Goddard » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:53 am

vbbish wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:43 am I offered him 3 firsts & Foreman and he declined. I know he is high on H. Henry, would you do 3 firsts & HH??
As long as the firsts aren't all projected to be early, I probably would do that.

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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke?? UPDATE (OBJ?)

Postby vbbish » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:46 am

Hey guys,

As updated in the main post. After going back and forth with Zeke owner I received an offer from the OBJ owner.

I give Kamara, 2018 first & C Hogan

I get OBJ & T Riddick

While I hate what this does to my starting lineup the offer might be too good to turn down. Thoughts??
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Re: Kamara & 2 Firsts or Zeke?? UPDATE (OBJ?)

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:47 am

hope you accepted the OBJ deal
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