Josh Jones
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Josh Jones
Talk to me about this guy. Clearly just had a week 3 breakout but was it a fluke? I assumed he was more few safety (appears I may have been incorrect?). Will his usage stay high? Educate me!
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Re: Josh Jones
He's definitely a strong, not free safety. Burnett has been playing LB so Jones has gotten his SS snaps
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Josh Jones
I grabbed him off the wire right after our rookie draft! I hope this is the start of things to come!
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Re: Josh Jones
Seems like Jones is primed for a potentially huge season if they are going to continue to deploy him at SS with Burnett down in the box at LB. Do we know if this was game specific? Or has it been trending this way?
Re: Josh Jones
Everything that I read about the situation during the preseason was that he was drafted to be the Burnett replacement and that his drafting was a sign that they might not resign Burnett. It appears that he has impressed the coaches and is getting his chance earlier than expected. Burnett has been moved to the slot corner and Jones is playing the LB/S hybrid. Given their performances last week and everything that I'm hearing from GB, I would expect this to continue, at least in the short term. And Jones is definitely a guy that I would target for next year.
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Re: Josh Jones
I have both Burnett and jones on my roster. Should I bench Burnett and go with jones the rest of the way?
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Re: Josh Jones
I would not. You'd be benching an annual DB1 in favor of a rookie who's had one good week out of 3. Let it play out. I don't mind benching Burnett in favor of a guy like Farley, Poyer, or Killibrew, but I wouldn't start Jones yet.Raymond1974 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:05 pm I have both Burnett and jones on my roster. Should I bench Burnett and go with jones the rest of the way?
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Josh Jones
I started him last week but I'm not so sure we can start him with confidence unless Wilson is out again. He's trending in that direction tho.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:09 pmI would not. You'd be benching an annual DB1 in favor of a rookie who's had one good week out of 3. Let it play out. I don't mind benching Burnett in favor of a guy like Farley, Poyer, or Killibrew, but I wouldn't start Jones yet.Raymond1974 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:05 pm I have both Burnett and jones on my roster. Should I bench Burnett and go with jones the rest of the way?
Re: Josh Jones
Don't expect this type of week from Jones each and every week but he is the future playmaker of the GB defense. I don't think he will play a lot in a traditional SS role this season unless Burnett gets hurt. When GB plays base 3-4 (10-25% of snaps) Burnett plays a traditional SS role moving around in the defense. When GB goes Nitro (5 DB+Jones) it will be Jones at ILB, Burnett at Slot Corner/SS, and either Brice or Evans at a traditional SS position. Traditional Nickel and Dime may or may not include Jones. At this point in his career Jones is best at blowing things up and using his speed/strength combo to be a disruptive force.
Moving forward Jones greatest value maybe Burnett staying in GB allowing him to move between SS and ILB. He has the size (6'2" 220lb) and aggressiveness to play LB with little fear. This should lead to a lot of tackles, sacks, and big plays (See Week 3). If Burnett leaves Jones will move back into a traditional SS role with some LB packages leading to a solid IDP player but not elite.
Moving forward Jones greatest value maybe Burnett staying in GB allowing him to move between SS and ILB. He has the size (6'2" 220lb) and aggressiveness to play LB with little fear. This should lead to a lot of tackles, sacks, and big plays (See Week 3). If Burnett leaves Jones will move back into a traditional SS role with some LB packages leading to a solid IDP player but not elite.
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Re: Josh Jones
So I grabbed Josh Jones and now need to decide between him (vs. Bears), Killbrew (vs. Vikings), Vaccaro (vs. Miami), and Byron Jones (vs. Rams) for my 2 DB spots (tackle heavy). Any of these guys must start or fade this week? I would think the Bears and Rams do the most running plays.
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Re: Josh Jones
I would rather sit Jones. I don't see Chicago putting up tons of tackle opportunities
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Josh Jones
Wasn't Burnett playing a different role on defense in the last couple of years when he was a DB1? I feel like him moving to the box and to slot corner when Jones is on the field could kill a lot of his value.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:09 pmI would not. You'd be benching an annual DB1 in favor of a rookie who's had one good week out of 3. Let it play out. I don't mind benching Burnett in favor of a guy like Farley, Poyer, or Killibrew, but I wouldn't start Jones yet.Raymond1974 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:05 pm I have both Burnett and jones on my roster. Should I bench Burnett and go with jones the rest of the way?
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Re: Josh Jones
They're all chess pieces so it's hard to predict usage or pts. I'm not that against benching Burnett, I am mainly cautioning someone against plugging Jones into their lineups after one good week.CharlieKelly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:44 pmWasn't Burnett playing a different role on defense in the last couple of years when he was a DB1? I feel like him moving to the box and to slot corner when Jones is on the field could kill a lot of his value.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:09 pmI would not. You'd be benching an annual DB1 in favor of a rookie who's had one good week out of 3. Let it play out. I don't mind benching Burnett in favor of a guy like Farley, Poyer, or Killibrew, but I wouldn't start Jones yet.Raymond1974 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:05 pm I have both Burnett and jones on my roster. Should I bench Burnett and go with jones the rest of the way?
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
Re: Josh Jones
Received a trade offer for Josh Jones.
The guy proposing the trade was ahead of me in the waiver order this week and picked up Jones. He asked if I'd be open to trading him Chris Carson for Jones straight up.
I picked up Chris Carson for free on waivers and I'm not sure what his ceiling is, or where he fits on my team other than a stash. I'm 3-0 and firing on all cyclinders right now, so I don't feel like I need to make any moves even though I like Jones and had him on my watch list.
How close of an offer is this? Should I counter by asking him to throw in a pick? Or, since both were waiver finds, do we agree not to get greedy and trade them straight up?
The guy proposing the trade was ahead of me in the waiver order this week and picked up Jones. He asked if I'd be open to trading him Chris Carson for Jones straight up.
I picked up Chris Carson for free on waivers and I'm not sure what his ceiling is, or where he fits on my team other than a stash. I'm 3-0 and firing on all cyclinders right now, so I don't feel like I need to make any moves even though I like Jones and had him on my watch list.
How close of an offer is this? Should I counter by asking him to throw in a pick? Or, since both were waiver finds, do we agree not to get greedy and trade them straight up?
TEAMS 1&2: 10tm. Non-PPR +IDP.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB
TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.
TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.
Starters: 1QB-2RB-3WR-1TE-1K-2DL-1EDR-3LB-3DB
TEAM 1:
QB: C.Wentz, P.Rivers, J.Rosen, L.Jackson.
RB: J.Mixon, L.Fournette, J.Howard, D.Williams
WR: O.BeckhamJr, M.Thomas, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, S.Watkins, C.Godwin, C.Sutton.
TE: Z.Ertz, M.Gesicki, G.Kittle.
DL: D.Hunter, D.Barnett, C.Jones.
EDR: H.Landry.
LB: M.Jack, Z.Cunningham, A.Williamson, L.Vander Esch, C.Littleton.
DB: R.Jones, B.McDougald, S.Williams.
TEAM 2:
QB: D.Watson.
RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, C.Hyde, N.Chubb, A.Jones.
WR: A.Cooper, M.Thomas, J.Smith-Schuster, J.Gordon, M.Williams, K.Golladay, C.Godwin, C.Kirk.
TE: E.Engram, D.Njoku, D.Goedert.
DL: K.Mack, D.Hunter, D.Ware
EDR: V.Miller
LB: T.Smith, M.Jack, D.Jones, Z.Cunningham, T.Edmunds, L.Vander Esch.
DB: B.Baker, D.James, C.Geathers.
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Re: Josh Jones
I would NEVER trade a starting offensive player for a DB off the wire.Dyno_7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:47 pm Received a trade offer for Josh Jones.
The guy proposing the trade was ahead of me in the waiver order this week and picked up Jones. He asked if I'd be open to trading him Chris Carson for Jones straight up.
I also picked up Chris Carson for free on waivers and I'm not sure what his ceiling is, or where he fits on my team other than a stash. I'm 3-0 and firing on all cyclinders right now, so I don't feel like I need to make any moves even though I like Jones and had him on my watch list.
How close of an offer is this? Should I counter by asking him to throw in a pick? Or, since both were waiver finds, do we agree not to get greedy and trade them straight up?
Jones might be a really nice asset in the future, or he might turn into a really annoying chess piece who gets moved around and plays 65% of the snaps. Or he might turn out to suck and get benched.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Pittman, Diggs
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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