Dynasty League Football Forum

skip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:47 am

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:41 am I got an owner in my league to OVERPAY like crazy for him in a 16 teamer.

I Got: D Lewis, TyWill, 2018 2nd
I Gave: Lockett

Very happy with the deal.. Someone reading the forum will look at that and be like, "I would trade that for Lockett." AND you sir are an idiot lol

I'd have traded Lockett just for Tyrell... Candy from a baby, my friend.

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:49 am

skip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:47 am

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:41 am I got an owner in my league to OVERPAY like crazy for him in a 16 teamer.

I Got: D Lewis, TyWill, 2018 2nd
I Gave: Lockett

Very happy with the deal.. Someone reading the forum will look at that and be like, "I would trade that for Lockett." AND you sir are an idiot lol

I'd have traded Lockett just for Tyrell... Candy from a baby, my friend.

Yea he showed HUGE interest in Lockett and his initial offer was Tyrell + 2018 2nd and I needed RB help so said if he threw in Dixon or Lewis I could do it and he sent the offer the next minute lol

ChuckCecil26 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:36 am And when all else is even, I always bet on the guy with draft pedigree over the UDFA. Who knows, Tyrell Williams might be the next Allen Hurns. A year after going in the 7th round in startups, Hurns is a 16th round pick (and an untradeable fantasy asset).

ChuckCecil26 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:36 am

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:49 am

skip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:47 am

I'd have traded Lockett just for Tyrell... Candy from a baby, my friend.

Yea he showed HUGE interest in Lockett and his initial offer was Tyrell + 2018 2nd and I needed RB help so said if he threw in Dixon or Lewis I could do it and he sent the offer the next minute lol

I've been called an idiot many times, but yeah, I would sell that for Lockett and toast myself at the nearest pub afterward. This is nowhere close to a massive overpay as you say.

Dion Lewis may be the most overrated player in fantasy football. Bill's already thinking about replacing him with Burkhead. White and DJ Foster are still on the roster and the draft hasn't happened yet. Lewis is also unstartable because even if he makes the team and stays healthy and everything else falls into place, how are you going to predict his 4 good games in 2017? The Patriots didn't even trust him in the Super Bowl.

Your trade partner opened a valuable roster spot with this trade and saddled you with a roster-clogging albatross.

A random 2018 2nd has a high bust rate.

And when all else is even, I always bet on the guy with draft pedigree over the UDFA. Who knows, Tyrell Williams might be the next Allen Hurns. A year after going in the 7th round in startups, Hurns is a 16th round pick (and an untradeable fantasy asset).

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:03 am I traded Lewis for Perriman + DGB + 2nd

skip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:05 am

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:03 am I traded Lewis for Perriman + DGB + 2nd

You need to hang your head in shame for pulling that one off. Do you feel no guilt?

skip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:59 am

ChuckCecil26 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:36 am And when all else is even, I always bet on the guy with draft pedigree over the UDFA. Who knows, Tyrell Williams might be the next Allen Hurns. A year after going in the 7th round in startups, Hurns is a 16th round pick (and an untradeable fantasy asset).

I'd hardly call "all else even". And if we're doing a comparison

Hurns 11 games 35-477-3 (3-43 avg)
Lockett 15 games 41-597-1 (3-40 avg)

This is an age old problem of expectation - partly based on "draft pedigree". Lockett's expectations for 2016 were too high and unreasonable. There was nothing except manipulated stats from 2015 to suggest that he was going to have some big breakout in his 2nd year in the league. Lockett may currently have trade value but if he has another season anywhere close to the job he did in 2016, his value is going to tank faster than Milli Vanilli.

ChuckCecil26 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:29 pm Oh come on, comparing Hurns' miserable Season 3 to Lockett's injury-plagued Season 2 is intentionally misleading. I compared Williams with Hurns because they're both UDFAs who supernovaed in their second seasons. Hurns subsequently fell off a cliff.

skip wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:33 pm People overvalued him as a 1st round pick a year ago. There is no way he is worth that. Middle 2nd as a low upside player. His value is in return yardage leagues. Far too many better options out there.

Goddard wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:04 pm

skip wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:33 pm People overvalued him as a 1st round pick a year ago. There is no way he is worth that. Middle 2nd as a low upside player. His value is in return yardage leagues. Far too many better options out there.

This exactly.

skip wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:51 pm

ChuckCecil26 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:29 pm Oh come on, comparing Hurns' miserable Season 3 to Lockett's injury-plagued Season 2 is intentionally misleading. I compared Williams with Hurns because they're both UDFAs who supernovaed in their second seasons. Hurns subsequently fell off a cliff.

You intentionally cherry-picked Hurns to try to prove a point about Williams and followed it up with a similar one with Adams as it relates to Lockett. I was simply demonstrating that stats (like draft pedigree) can be misleading and used to try to prove whatever point you wish.

Every situation is unique. Tyrell is very talented, whether you want to dismiss him for that is irrelevant to me. He plays like Mike Evans and I am not giving him away for Tyler Lockett. Draft pedigree says nothing regarding the talent of these two.