Team 2 below
The OBJ owner had mentioned that he would be willing to trade him this offseason. We just had our startup draft last year and he took him #1 overall.
He's not a big Watkins fan so I doubt that he would have to be included in the trade. Which leaves me to believe that he would want either Newton or Winston.
How much more value is added to Newton and Winston being that it's a superflex and then what else would I have to add to acquire OBJ?
Superflex Question
- georgetown
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Superflex Question
Team 1
12 team PPR, 6pts/passing TD
22 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR/TE), D/ST, K
QB: A. Rodgers, M. Mariota, J. Garoppolo
RB: K. Hunt, S. Barkley, M. Gordon, J. McKinnon, M. Breida, M. Mack, M. Murphy, R. Burkhead
WR: D. Hopkins, S. Watkins, K. Allen, T. Hilton, D. Jackson, C. Sutton, C. Kirk
TE: R. Gronkowski, J. Smith, R. Seals-Jones, C. Brate
K: D. Bailey
DEF: LA Rams
2019: 4th, 5th
Team 2
12 team PPR Superflex 4pts/passing TD, -1.5/ INT
28 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, WR, RB, TE, Superflex, 4 Flex
QB: C. Newton, D, Prescott, J. Winston, L. Jackson
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, B. Cooks, C. Godwin, J. Crowder, DJ Moore, C. Kirk, D. Hamilton, K. Coutee, Tre’Quan Smith, R. Foster
RB: N. Chubb, K. Johnson, A. Jones, A. Ekeler, J.Adams,
TE: E. Ebron, A. Hooper, J. Reed, T. Burton, G. Everett
2019: 1.03, 2.03, 2.04, 2.05
2020: 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 team PPR, 6pts/passing TD
22 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR/TE), D/ST, K
QB: A. Rodgers, M. Mariota, J. Garoppolo
RB: K. Hunt, S. Barkley, M. Gordon, J. McKinnon, M. Breida, M. Mack, M. Murphy, R. Burkhead
WR: D. Hopkins, S. Watkins, K. Allen, T. Hilton, D. Jackson, C. Sutton, C. Kirk
TE: R. Gronkowski, J. Smith, R. Seals-Jones, C. Brate
K: D. Bailey
DEF: LA Rams
2019: 4th, 5th
Team 2
12 team PPR Superflex 4pts/passing TD, -1.5/ INT
28 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, WR, RB, TE, Superflex, 4 Flex
QB: C. Newton, D, Prescott, J. Winston, L. Jackson
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, B. Cooks, C. Godwin, J. Crowder, DJ Moore, C. Kirk, D. Hamilton, K. Coutee, Tre’Quan Smith, R. Foster
RB: N. Chubb, K. Johnson, A. Jones, A. Ekeler, J.Adams,
TE: E. Ebron, A. Hooper, J. Reed, T. Burton, G. Everett
2019: 1.03, 2.03, 2.04, 2.05
2020: 3rd, 4th, 5th
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Re: Superflex Question
Your QB situation isn't strong enough in a superflex to make this deal. Yes it would be great to gain OBJ but he won't help you win like another mobile starting QB will.
I would move Winston before Cam. This a new league so some owners might not value QBs as high as they should be in this type of league.
I would move Winston before Cam. This a new league so some owners might not value QBs as high as they should be in this type of league.
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Re: Superflex Question
How valuable should QBs be then? Would I be better off to try and acquire another QB instead?
I know the Brees owner is looking to get a 1st round pick out of him.
I know the Brees owner is looking to get a 1st round pick out of him.
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Re: Superflex Question
No you don't need another QB Cutler is serviceable. What general mills is saying is that giving up Wilson or Cam for OBJ would actually hurt your team rather then help it.
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Re: Superflex Question
QBs are valued much greater than any other position in Superflex.
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The Wookies
12 team PPR League
S: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Brady, Flacco
RBs: Zeke, D Murray, McKinnon, Powell
WRs: Hopkins, Cooks, J Nelson, Baldwin, R Matthews, Quick
TEs: Reed, Rudolph, Davis
K: Dawson
DEF: CAR, BAL
9-1
Tune Squad
16 team .5PPR League
S: 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Wilson, Keenum, Flacco
RBs: McCoy, Howard, McKinnon, B Allen, Woodhead
WRs: Evans, Julio, Tate, Smith
TEs: Rudolph, Clay
8-2
Midwest Folks
Co-Owner: pierson242
16 team .5PPR Full IDP League
S: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Brees, Wentz, Beathard
RBs: Murray, Miller, Ingram, Gore, Riddick
WRs: AB, Hilton, Dez, Tate, Lafell, Inman, Rodgers, Kearse
TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
DEs: Dunlap, Hicks, Wolf, Robison
LBs: Kirksey, Williams, Foster, Hicks, Perryman, Posluszny, Alexander, Walker, Morgan
CBs: Alford, Slay, Harris, Waynes, Randall, Bradberry, Trufant
Ss: Vaccaro, Mathieu, Church, Evans, Sendejo
The Wookies
12 team PPR League
S: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1K, 1DEF
QBs: Brady, Flacco
RBs: Zeke, D Murray, McKinnon, Powell
WRs: Hopkins, Cooks, J Nelson, Baldwin, R Matthews, Quick
TEs: Reed, Rudolph, Davis
K: Dawson
DEF: CAR, BAL
9-1
Tune Squad
16 team .5PPR League
S: 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Wilson, Keenum, Flacco
RBs: McCoy, Howard, McKinnon, B Allen, Woodhead
WRs: Evans, Julio, Tate, Smith
TEs: Rudolph, Clay
8-2
Midwest Folks
Co-Owner: pierson242
16 team .5PPR Full IDP League
S: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 3FLEX
QBs: Brees, Wentz, Beathard
RBs: Murray, Miller, Ingram, Gore, Riddick
WRs: AB, Hilton, Dez, Tate, Lafell, Inman, Rodgers, Kearse
TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
DEs: Dunlap, Hicks, Wolf, Robison
LBs: Kirksey, Williams, Foster, Hicks, Perryman, Posluszny, Alexander, Walker, Morgan
CBs: Alford, Slay, Harris, Waynes, Randall, Bradberry, Trufant
Ss: Vaccaro, Mathieu, Church, Evans, Sendejo
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Re: Superflex Question
Is Brees worth the 1.07?
Then I could use one of my QBs to go after OBJ?
Then I could use one of my QBs to go after OBJ?
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Re: Superflex Question
Any thoughts on Brees for the 1.07?
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Re: Superflex Question
No. You're team -- sorry to be blunt -- doesn't look like a championship contender.
Given that you have two young stud QBs in an SF league, there's next-to-no chance that I'd move either one. You'll be chasing that position and production forever. Keep them; they'll still be elite when you're ready to compete.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Re: Superflex Question
If you did both deals (Winston for OBJ and Brees for 1.7) in tandem, your team would be a bit more into win now territory. But you're a bunch of RBs short of a title run IMO. I don't think you could convert into a win now team with what you have currently. I think you'd end up short.
I would play the long game with your squad and continue to build over the next few years. I would start by try to either package up some picks/players to move up in the draft, to get some more assets. Or you could stay pat take a solid WR at 1.7 in 2017. Flip Cutler, MJones, DLewis and whatever you can for some picks in this or next year's draft or young players you believe in (D. Lewis now while his value is high).
Your core assets (Newton, Jameis and Sammy) will give you a window to compete in 2-3 years if you play it smart. If you try to rush it, you'll end up coming unstuck IMO.
I would play the long game with your squad and continue to build over the next few years. I would start by try to either package up some picks/players to move up in the draft, to get some more assets. Or you could stay pat take a solid WR at 1.7 in 2017. Flip Cutler, MJones, DLewis and whatever you can for some picks in this or next year's draft or young players you believe in (D. Lewis now while his value is high).
Your core assets (Newton, Jameis and Sammy) will give you a window to compete in 2-3 years if you play it smart. If you try to rush it, you'll end up coming unstuck IMO.
Sig 1- 10 team, QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE, Flex, DEF, K
QB: T Brady, R Tannehill, C Palmer
RB: L McCoy, J Charles, T West, C West, M Davis, J Starks
WR: J Jones, E Sanders, N Agholor, C Conley, M Wallace, D Funchess, T Boyd, T Hill
TE: T Kelce, ASJ, T Higbee
DEF: Arizona, Oakland
K: J Tucker
Sig 2 - 10 team - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, Flex, TE, DST, K
QB: A Luck, M Mariota
RB: J Charles, E Lacy, T Coleman, M Gordon, L Blount, K Dixon
WR: J Jones, A Robinson, D Parker, C Coleman, P Dorsett,
TE: R Gronkowski, T Kelce
DST: Bengals
K: B Walsh
Sig 3 - 12 team - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, Flex, Superflex, TE, DST
QB: J Winston, C Palmer, J Cutler, T Bridgewater, D Stanton
RB: L Murray, D Lewis, M Gordon, J Charles, D McFadden, J Richard, A Collins, D Lasco
WR: A Cooper, M Evans, B Marshall, K Allen, D Jackson, E Royal, DGB, C Conley, D Smith, C Peake, R Louis
TE: J Thomas, J Graham
DST: KC
Taxi: R Lewis, M North, R Higgins
QB: T Brady, R Tannehill, C Palmer
RB: L McCoy, J Charles, T West, C West, M Davis, J Starks
WR: J Jones, E Sanders, N Agholor, C Conley, M Wallace, D Funchess, T Boyd, T Hill
TE: T Kelce, ASJ, T Higbee
DEF: Arizona, Oakland
K: J Tucker
Sig 2 - 10 team - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, Flex, TE, DST, K
QB: A Luck, M Mariota
RB: J Charles, E Lacy, T Coleman, M Gordon, L Blount, K Dixon
WR: J Jones, A Robinson, D Parker, C Coleman, P Dorsett,
TE: R Gronkowski, T Kelce
DST: Bengals
K: B Walsh
Sig 3 - 12 team - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, Flex, Superflex, TE, DST
QB: J Winston, C Palmer, J Cutler, T Bridgewater, D Stanton
RB: L Murray, D Lewis, M Gordon, J Charles, D McFadden, J Richard, A Collins, D Lasco
WR: A Cooper, M Evans, B Marshall, K Allen, D Jackson, E Royal, DGB, C Conley, D Smith, C Peake, R Louis
TE: J Thomas, J Graham
DST: KC
Taxi: R Lewis, M North, R Higgins
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