Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

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Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri May 20, 2016 2:58 pm

I'm rebuilding an orphan team, 12T IDP, 53-man roster, PPR, non-salaried/contract (keep as long as you want)

I've accumulated 6 2017 1sts, and 4 2017 2nds

My only core players on offense at this post by are Carlos Hyde, Jordan Matthews, and Moncrief.

I want to trade for one of the 3 young stud WRs, but how would you rank those 3, and what would be a trade package that's fair?
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
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KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
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MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby HughHoney » Fri May 20, 2016 3:22 pm

I owned all 3 but dealt Evans this offseason. My personal ranking is:

Watkins
Cooper
Evans

Two of your 17 1sts and one of those players would be a reasonable first offer.

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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby Stabsinthe » Fri May 20, 2016 3:27 pm

HughHoney wrote: Two of your 17 1sts and one of those players would be a reasonable first offer.
Agreed. A few weeks ago, picked up Evans for 1.08, Moncrief, and a 2017 1st.
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby knotts4372 » Fri May 20, 2016 5:32 pm

cooper, watkins, evans in order for me
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri May 20, 2016 8:32 pm

Ok, so the Cooper owner won't deal him. I've made offers for

Evans: Matthews, Hyde, and 2017 1st
And Watkins: three 2017 1sts

I'm also thinking about making a play for Alshon, although the price would have to be really good since he isn't much good to me the next year or 2, and he ain't getting any younger
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
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KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby Boxseed » Sat May 21, 2016 7:19 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:Ok, so the Cooper owner won't deal him. I've made offers for

Evans: Matthews, Hyde, and 2017 1st
And Watkins: three 2017 1sts

I'm also thinking about making a play for Alshon, although the price would have to be really good since he isn't much good to me the next year or 2, and he ain't getting any younger
I'd sit tight on those 2017 1st unless someone is coming at you and willing to pay... But cheaper guys keep spreading the wealth... Buy those guys before there value goes up like Watkins coop and them, if you can get players cheap I like dgb Floyd moncreif, ty is even going cheap these days etc Kevin white...
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Sat May 21, 2016 8:50 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:Ok, so the Cooper owner won't deal him. I've made offers for

Evans: Matthews, Hyde, and 2017 1st
And Watkins: three 2017 1sts
I own Watkins and Evans in both of my leagues. Those are fair offers... I wouldn't even think about it before rejecting them though. Fair offers won't get you those players at this point. You'll need to overpay which I don't think is in your best interest. Rebuilding you should be targeting undervalued players... Maybe check on the Keneen Allen owner..
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 21, 2016 11:36 am

Thanks guys! So the Alshon owner sent me a trade of Jeffery and 2 throw ins for:
2 2017 firsts (including mine which almost certainly will be top 3-4) and K. Mack (LB designation)
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby Coogan Football » Sat May 21, 2016 3:26 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:Thanks guys! So the Alshon owner sent me a trade of Jeffery and 2 throw ins for:
2 2017 firsts (including mine which almost certainly will be top 3-4) and K. Mack (LB designation)
I would pass. I'm not a Jeffrey fan and Khalil Mack will probably be officially changed to DE before long and he will be worth a ton.
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun May 29, 2016 11:17 am

So the Mike Evans owner is finally ready to deal, but he wants "at least" 3 of my 2017 1sts. I'm still inclined to do that, but what are y'alls thoughts?
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TEAM C - 32T (2 copy), 1QB, TEP
TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
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KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Sun May 29, 2016 11:23 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:So the Mike Evans owner is finally ready to deal, but he wants "at least" 3 of my 2017 1sts. I'm still inclined to do that, but what are y'alls thoughts?
As much as I like that deal valuewise and I LOVE Evans, I would have to think long and hard about doing that with your team.. You have so many needs that giving up all those picks for one player could be a bad move long term.
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby Coogan Football » Sun May 29, 2016 12:24 pm

BelichekYourSelf wrote:
lukkynumber13 wrote:So the Mike Evans owner is finally ready to deal, but he wants "at least" 3 of my 2017 1sts. I'm still inclined to do that, but what are y'alls thoughts?
As much as I like that deal valuewise and I LOVE Evans, I would have to think long and hard about doing that with your team.. You have so many needs that giving up all those picks for one player could be a bad move long term.
I agree and Evans is not someone I'd feel safe enough doing that with
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby Boxseed » Mon May 30, 2016 7:40 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:So the Mike Evans owner is finally ready to deal, but he wants "at least" 3 of my 2017 1sts. I'm still inclined to do that, but what are y'alls thoughts?
Hold tight once 2017 comes around people will be paying crazy prices that's how you rebuild you're team.
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby hoos89 » Mon May 30, 2016 7:54 am

I'd sit on those firsts for now (especially yours) unless you get an offer that just blows your socks off. I wouldn't be looking to deal multiple 1sts at even value or close to it in your position.
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Re: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins - Trade value?

Postby KAT » Mon May 30, 2016 4:18 pm

HughHoney wrote:I owned all 3 but dealt Evans this offseason. My personal ranking is:

Watkins
Cooper
Evans

Two of your 17 1sts and one of those players would be a reasonable first offer.
So, Watkins foot and low volume passing offense, are having very little influence on your valuation of Watkins...

Thats interesting.... I've been offered Watkins for my C. Coleman/S. Shepard and I couldnt pull the trigger....
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