I enjoyed watching both, but who do you like more? The great talent that has a bionic knee on an iffy
team? Or the diamond that just got polished, on team that is well put together?
In a vacuum, who would you rather have? In currant situation, who?
I'd rather has Johnson, I just love watching him catch a ball and he has a shot to score from anywhere on the field.
Ghurley Or David Johnson
Ghurley Or David Johnson
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Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
Gurley easily, and I like Johnson a lot.
10 team PPR
QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, R/W/T
QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Garoppolo
RB: Gurley, Ingram, Lacy, Prosise, McKinnon, Richard, Burkhead, Zenner
WR: Hopkins, AJG, Dez, DT, K White, Parker, Treadwell, Floyd, DJax, Rogers
TE: Eifert, Hooper
'17 picks: 1.03, 1.04, 1.09, 2.01
'18 picks: two 1sts, two 2nds
QB, RBx2, WRx3, TE, R/W/T
QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Garoppolo
RB: Gurley, Ingram, Lacy, Prosise, McKinnon, Richard, Burkhead, Zenner
WR: Hopkins, AJG, Dez, DT, K White, Parker, Treadwell, Floyd, DJax, Rogers
TE: Eifert, Hooper
'17 picks: 1.03, 1.04, 1.09, 2.01
'18 picks: two 1sts, two 2nds
Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
Gurley
12 Team 1QB IDP Full PPR Start 8
QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
Taxi Squad: Chase Brown, A.T. Perry, Keaton Mitchell, Khalan Laborn, Lew Nichols lll
QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
Taxi Squad: Chase Brown, A.T. Perry, Keaton Mitchell, Khalan Laborn, Lew Nichols lll
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Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
x2Rocket wrote:Gurley easily, and I like Johnson a lot.
Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
X3Cherokee wrote:Gurley
Taking on a full rebuild and yes it is this bad!
16 team ppr league 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (rb,wr,te), 1 kicker, 1 defense, 10 bench spots
QB - Aj McCarron, Nick Foles
RB - Alfred Morris, Jonathan Grimes, Ka'Deem Carey, Khiry Robinson
WR - Davante Adams, Travis Benjamin, Cole Beasley, Harry Douglas, Dwayne Harris, Cody Latimer, Marqise Lee, Jaelen Strong, Breshad Perriman, Sammie Coates
TE - Clive Walford, Maxx Williams, Jesse James
2016 - picks 11, 15, 20, 27
16 team ppr league 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex (rb,wr,te), 1 kicker, 1 defense, 10 bench spots
QB - Aj McCarron, Nick Foles
RB - Alfred Morris, Jonathan Grimes, Ka'Deem Carey, Khiry Robinson
WR - Davante Adams, Travis Benjamin, Cole Beasley, Harry Douglas, Dwayne Harris, Cody Latimer, Marqise Lee, Jaelen Strong, Breshad Perriman, Sammie Coates
TE - Clive Walford, Maxx Williams, Jesse James
2016 - picks 11, 15, 20, 27
Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
I guess I'm alone in not trusting remanufactured knees.
Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
Leveon Bell PCL MCLerknjerk wrote:I guess I'm alone in not trusting remanufactured knees.
Jamaal Charles ACL
Adrian Peterson ACL
Barry Sanders PCL
Thurman Thomas ACL
many many many more
Half these older guys didnt even have ACLs or MCLs
I think today you have to except that it is an injury that comes with the job
David Johnson will most likely tear something as well
12 Team 1QB IDP Full PPR Start 8
QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
Taxi Squad: Chase Brown, A.T. Perry, Keaton Mitchell, Khalan Laborn, Lew Nichols lll
QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
TE- Michael Mayer, Likely, Chig, Cade Otten
LB- Jewell, Deablo, Troy Anderson
DE- Phillips, Highsmith
DB- Brisker, Hufanga, Cine
Taxi Squad: Chase Brown, A.T. Perry, Keaton Mitchell, Khalan Laborn, Lew Nichols lll
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Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
Cherokee wrote:Leveon Bell PCL MCLerknjerk wrote:I guess I'm alone in not trusting remanufactured knees.
Jamaal Charles ACL
Adrian Peterson ACL
Barry Sanders PCL
Thurman Thomas ACL
many many many more
Half these older guys didnt even have ACLs or MCLs
I think today you have to except that it is an injury that comes with the job
David Johnson will most likely tear something as well
Well said.
Team 1 (Empire League):
12 Team PPR 1 QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1RB/WR/TE Flex, K, DEF
16 Roster Spots, 3 Taxi
QB: R. Wilson, A. Smith
RB: T. Gurley, A. Kamara, D. Freeman, T. Coleman, J. Mixon, A. Kamara, A. Ekler
WR: A. Brown. M. Evans, J. Crowder, J. Smith-Schuster, D. Westbrook, T. Taylor, C. Samuel
TE: T. Kelce, E. Engram
Team 2:
12 Team Super Flex PPR TE Premium
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1SF
24 Roster Spots, 4 Taxi Squad
QB: C. Newton, D. Carr, E. Manning, J. Rosen
RB: J. Mixon, D. Guice, S. Perine, S. Ware, D. Foreman, R. Kelley, M. Brown, A. Ekeler, Yeldon
WR: A. Cooper, A. Robinson, B. Perriman, W. Fuller, J. Smith- Schuster, N. Agholar, C. Beasley, P. Dorsett, L. Carroo
TE: E. Ebron, K. Rudolph, E. Engram, A. Shaheen
12 Team PPR 1 QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1RB/WR/TE Flex, K, DEF
16 Roster Spots, 3 Taxi
QB: R. Wilson, A. Smith
RB: T. Gurley, A. Kamara, D. Freeman, T. Coleman, J. Mixon, A. Kamara, A. Ekler
WR: A. Brown. M. Evans, J. Crowder, J. Smith-Schuster, D. Westbrook, T. Taylor, C. Samuel
TE: T. Kelce, E. Engram
Team 2:
12 Team Super Flex PPR TE Premium
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1SF
24 Roster Spots, 4 Taxi Squad
QB: C. Newton, D. Carr, E. Manning, J. Rosen
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Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
I think its worth noting that Johnson and Gurley aren't that far apart in points and production. I'm a Rams fan, so I love me some Todd Gurley, but DJ has looked really good all season too. Not just these past few weeks.
Team 1:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/FLEX/D/K .5 PPR, 4pt passing TD.
QB: J. Winston J. Garoppolo
RB: E. Elliot, M. Gordon, T. Coleman, Burkhead, J. Allen,
WR: A. Robinson, S. Watkins, T.Y Hilton, J. Gordon, R. Switzer, C. Godwin, C. Coleman, M. Lee, J. Smith-Schuster, L. Treadwell, J. Ross, W. Snead,
TE: H. Henry, T. Higbee
Team 2:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX/2DL/2LB/2DB/2DFLEX; .5 PPR, 4pt passing TD.
QB: J. Winston, A. Dalton
RB: T. Coleman, J. Allen, A. Jones, S. Perine, T. Ward, J. McNichols
WR: A. Robsinson, S. Watkins, M. Lee, R. Anderson, R. Matthews, C. Godwin, T. Taylor, A. Darboh, R. Woods
TE: T. Kelce, H. Henry, J. Doyle, E. Engram
DL: J. Bosa C. Avril, N. Spence
LB: A. Ogletree, B. Wagner, L. David, B. McKinney, B. Orakpo, N. Bellore, S. Lawson, J. Smith
S: H. Clinton-Dix, A. Adrian, TJ McDonald, S. Williams, K. Byard
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/FLEX/D/K .5 PPR, 4pt passing TD.
QB: J. Winston J. Garoppolo
RB: E. Elliot, M. Gordon, T. Coleman, Burkhead, J. Allen,
WR: A. Robinson, S. Watkins, T.Y Hilton, J. Gordon, R. Switzer, C. Godwin, C. Coleman, M. Lee, J. Smith-Schuster, L. Treadwell, J. Ross, W. Snead,
TE: H. Henry, T. Higbee
Team 2:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX/2DL/2LB/2DB/2DFLEX; .5 PPR, 4pt passing TD.
QB: J. Winston, A. Dalton
RB: T. Coleman, J. Allen, A. Jones, S. Perine, T. Ward, J. McNichols
WR: A. Robsinson, S. Watkins, M. Lee, R. Anderson, R. Matthews, C. Godwin, T. Taylor, A. Darboh, R. Woods
TE: T. Kelce, H. Henry, J. Doyle, E. Engram
DL: J. Bosa C. Avril, N. Spence
LB: A. Ogletree, B. Wagner, L. David, B. McKinney, B. Orakpo, N. Bellore, S. Lawson, J. Smith
S: H. Clinton-Dix, A. Adrian, TJ McDonald, S. Williams, K. Byard
Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
I would also take Gurley
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Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
Another DJ owner thread looking for confirmation in his belief that DJ is better than Gurley? No need for that. If you like DJ more, more power to you. But Gurley supporters know that what he did is far more impressive than anything DJ has done on the Cardinals roster surrounded by an all pro quarterback and hall of fame wide receiver. Remanufactured knee and all. Lol.
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Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
Gurley and it's not close.
12 Team. Roster 22, 4 TS. PPR, TE Prem (1.75). Start 1 QB, 5 flex (2 RB Max), 1 Def, 1 K
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens
Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
Gurley easily. I love me some David Johnson, but the hype he's gotten recently makes me want to start shopping him around. If I can get top 3-5ish RB value for him, I'll laugh all the way to the bank. I would accept Johnson + a mid first to get Gurley.
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Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
3 year window, PPR, I'll take David Johnson by a hair. If I knew the Rams were getting a new coach/GM next year I might go Gurley by a hair.
We can argue talent all day long but situation wise DJ has a ridiculous advantage. He's a reasonable threat to get 70+ receptions next year along with 250+ carries. Maybe Gurley gets 300+ carries (can he hold up?) but he's not getting anywhere near 70+ receptions. Just in the reception+yardage point differential alone (80ish pts) is HUGE. Even if you like Gurley more as a talent I think the usage/situation difference more than makes up for it. I also think valuing RBs in more than a 3 year window (which is the minimum time each will be on their respective teams) is a dangerous game.
We can argue talent all day long but situation wise DJ has a ridiculous advantage. He's a reasonable threat to get 70+ receptions next year along with 250+ carries. Maybe Gurley gets 300+ carries (can he hold up?) but he's not getting anywhere near 70+ receptions. Just in the reception+yardage point differential alone (80ish pts) is HUGE. Even if you like Gurley more as a talent I think the usage/situation difference more than makes up for it. I also think valuing RBs in more than a 3 year window (which is the minimum time each will be on their respective teams) is a dangerous game.
Re: Ghurley Or David Johnson
If we are talking PPR - DJ easy for me.
On tape he has looked just as good as Gurley. Even statistically he matches up pretty well (and don't give me the easy schedule bit, gurley had just as easy a schedule).
Gurley is already dealing with a walking boot and alleged turf toe. I still seriously doubt he can handle a large season workload.
On tape he has looked just as good as Gurley. Even statistically he matches up pretty well (and don't give me the easy schedule bit, gurley had just as easy a schedule).
Gurley is already dealing with a walking boot and alleged turf toe. I still seriously doubt he can handle a large season workload.
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