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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:36 pm
by bruiser
thanks for the scouting, fellas. I will be sure to check back from time to time

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:17 am
by KAT
Do you guys ever draft idps in the first round?


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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:41 pm
by bruiser
I traded a 2016 1st (likely 1.16) for 2.05 back in May. I used that to draft Shaq Thompson. Clowney went 1.09 last year, and Leo Williams went later this year.

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:34 pm
by FiremanEd
Haugs32 wrote:Do you guys ever draft idps in the first round?
No, nor will I. May be my settings/starting requirements, but I find offensive talent harder to find, and defender replacements easier. Find D can change more too with 4-3 to 3-4 transitions, while offensive talent can sustain.

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:04 pm
by KAT
FiremanEd wrote:
Haugs32 wrote:Do you guys ever draft idps in the first round?
No, nor will I. May be my settings/starting requirements, but I find offensive talent harder to find, and defender replacements easier. Find D can change more too with 4-3 to 3-4 transitions, while offensive talent can sustain.
Would your strategy change, if idps scoring were equal to O (telvin smith #14 over all in pts)

Also my league has a def flex.


Normally, i dont think id go idp in first rd. But Jack and jaylon have me intrigued. Bosa to a lesser extent.

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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:10 pm
by FiremanEd
Depends on the draft class, draft position, and where players end up post NFL draft. Too soon to say confidently whether I'd go against my stance.

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:12 pm
by KAT
Yeah. It is a long way away.


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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:32 pm
by Kcarr
I don't think right now I would take an IDP in the first simply because I don't feel anyone else would so even if it was the top guy on my board I could likely move back into the 2nd and still get him.

I think a lot of the issue is most leagues play a higher percentage of the viable offensive players than of defensive players putting offensive guys in short supply. For instance my one league starts 1 qb, 2 rbs, 3 wrs, 1 te, and 2 flex. This means outside of qb of the 5 starting skill positions on each team among the league each of thw 12 teams has to start 8.

On the other hand we start 3 lbs, 3 dbs, and 2 dls, so though we are starting 8 there as well there are 11 starting spots per nfl team to choose from so we are starting the same number of guys from twice as many starting options. I feel to make defensive players equal to offensive you would need twice as many IDP starters and points would have to be even.

One interesting thing I did note, however, was that during a startup last offseason one of the first 12 players from each individual class was an idp so that may hint at some value if you drafted the right one in the 1st

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:21 am
by bruiser
My league mates have drafted LBs and DE in the first round each of the past two years. What I failed to mention is that it is a 16-team format where you start 11 IDPs. That makes them valuable.

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:18 am
by Team Tacos
We start 11 IDPs too and guys do draft them in the first round but I never will again. I drafted Colin McCarthy in the first years ago, what a waste. I did reach for Telvin in the second a few years ago but that one has turned out well. Generally I start considering IDPs in the third.


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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:00 am
by Kcarr
I feel like if you had to start around 15 or 16 or so it seems like a lot but I think that is where IDPs would hit similar value to offensive guys in a league where you start 8 non qb offensive guys assuming points scored were close as well. I may try to start something along those lines this offseason but I feel it may take too deep of rosters for many people.

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:43 am
by Manoflaw
In my opinion, if you spend a first it had better be for the next JJ Watt or Keuchely. Usually we will have one guy reach in the late first for a LB. Our scoring is very even, and we start 2 des, DT, 4 LBs, 2 S, and 2 CBs. I don't go in rd 1, but I will spend a decent second on a LB, because those have 10 ppg potential in our scoring. The 2 times someone reached and took a LB ahead of me in the first, it's was Arthur Brown and Ryan Shazier. I took Alec Ogletree and CJ Mosely in the second both years. It's all about value. It would have been tough for me to spend a mid second last year, because of the depth with guys like Johnson, Strong, Duke, Funchess, Jameis etc going in that range. But if there aren't any skill players I think have a realistic shot, then I will go LB, because those guys are typically a lock to give you production.

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:18 am
by DynoScout
More names (may have missed mention):
DL: Shaq Lawson
ILB: Antonio Morrison
OLB: Noah Spence
DB: Jayron Kearse, Vonn Bell

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:33 am
by DynoScout
I think this class is shallow enough on offense that high-value IDPs (league settings specific) could slot into the late first round of 14-team and larger leagues.

Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:55 am
by J. Edgar
Don't sleep on Phillip ''Scooby" Wright, unfortunately his junior campaign was marred with injuries. Depending on his landing spot he could be the defensive steal of the upcoming draft.

He's one year removed from being the most decorated LB of the previous season.

Bednarik Award (Nation's top defensive player)
Nagurski Award (Nation's top defensive player)
Lombardi Award (Nation's best linebacker or lineman)
9th place - Heisman Trophy voting
Walter Camp Award Finalist (National Player of the Year)
Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year
SB Nation Defensive Player of the Year and First Team All-American
CBS Sports Defensive Player of the Year and First Team All-American
Scout.com Defensive Player of the Year and First Team All-American
AP First Team All-American
Walter Camp First Team All-American
USA Today Sports First Team All-American
Sports Illustrated First Team All-American