Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

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Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby Niceguy » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:32 pm

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I need to add some strength at WR behind DT and AJG. I am a big fan of Davante Adams and the current owner said he is willing to trade him for a good offer. I feel like his value is roughly equal to a 2016 1st which I would be willing to pay. Is this about right?
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby Hjorimir » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:35 pm

I'd need more. He was basically a late 1st/early 2nd during the draft last year. His stock has only increased since then (dramatically as of late). Just swapping him out for an unknown 1st doesn't excite.
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby Niceguy » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:36 pm

Would a 1st and a 2nd move the needle IYO?
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby ajb3313 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:39 pm

Hjorimir wrote:I'd need more. He was basically a late 1st/early 2nd during the draft last year. His stock has only increased since then (dramatically as of late). Just swapping him out for an unknown 1st doesn't excite.
Was going to post exactly this. I personally spent the 11th overall pick on him but I coveted him and had him even higher on my wishlist than that. Also keep in mind that given recent circumstances, there's a decent chance his value will never be higher than it is at this moment.
Niceguy wrote:Would a 1st and a 2nd move the needle IYO?
Not for me, though I suppose context could change that. How early is the first?

My knee-jerk thought is that I'd want at least two firsts to begin thinking about it -- one is essentially reimbursing my initial investment and the second is profit (though again, it depends where the picks are and how Adams is valued now, not just where you valued him when he was taken).
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby invisibulman » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:46 pm

Fair value is a mid-late 1st. Trade value will be 1st + 2nd or two late 1sts.
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby the don » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:47 pm

A 1st a 2nd and either Funchess/Jones would make me think quite hard about it.
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby Novacane » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:55 pm

invisibulman wrote:Fair value is a mid-late 1st. Trade value will be 1st + 2nd or two late 1sts.
Mid-late first is not fair value. Just because you really under value a guy doesnt mean that the market agrees. Look at mock drafts before the jordy injury. Adams was worth a mid to late first then. He has to be worth more now.

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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby operwapitsai » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:15 pm

I'm not willing to pay 2 1sts for any unknown asset.

The hype on Adams has seemingly gone out of control. Find another target
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby sloth8u » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:23 pm

ive been offered two 1st's that project to be late...it just isnt worth moving adams for that imo, especially to someone who is contending. if your trade partner doesnt have a very good team...i would think that may get the deal done though.

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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby Okie-Wisco Commi$h » Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:29 pm

the don wrote:A 1st a 2nd and either Funchess/Jones would make me think quite hard about it.
As a fellow Adams owner I could not disagree more. As stated previously, before the Jordy injury Adams was going late 1st early 2nd in rookie drafts...Now he's going 3-4th round in start up drafts! You may be right in that he may only be worth a 1st and 2nd, but his ceiling is too high right now to settle for anything less than 2 1st round rookie picks value. Basically, no Adams owner in his right mind would move him right now without that type of overpay.
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby trader101 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:31 pm

Okie-Wisco Commi$h wrote:
the don wrote:A 1st a 2nd and either Funchess/Jones would make me think quite hard about it.
As a fellow Adams owner I could not disagree more. As stated previously, before the Jordy injury Adams was going late 1st early 2nd in rookie drafts...Now he's going 3-4th round in start up drafts! You may be right in that he may only be worth a 1st and 2nd, but his ceiling is too high right now to settle for anything less than 2 1st round rookie picks value. Basically, no Adams owner in his right mind would move him right now without that type of overpay.
Thinking a big gap between what an excited owner would want vs someone hoping to sneak in and grab him late. This is a hard guy to get ahold of now, & I wouldn't even try with these prices. Though I do understand the owners wanting that reward.
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby pocylpse » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:36 pm

As a Davante owner I found this thread interesting. I didn't realize his value was this high. Thanks guys.
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby cdubbaya » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:00 pm

I was offered the 1.01 pick this year for Adams and I'm considering it. I need RB help, badly. (Team in Sig).

That said, I don't want to scare away the trade by asking for more.
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby operwapitsai » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:09 pm

cdubbaya wrote:I was offered the 1.01 pick this year for Adams and I'm considering it. I need RB help, badly. (Team in Sig).

That said, I don't want to scare away the trade by asking for more.
Considering it? Take it and run
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Re: Davante Adams value in 2016 picks

Postby cdubbaya » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:27 pm

operwapitsai wrote:
cdubbaya wrote:I was offered the 1.01 pick this year for Adams and I'm considering it. I need RB help, badly. (Team in Sig).

That said, I don't want to scare away the trade by asking for more.
Considering it? Take it and run
I should clarify - I'm considering it only because I would love to grab Cooper with 1.01 but I need a RB now. I'm wondering if I should try to shop Adams for a top 10 RB who can produce now.
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