Evans vs Green

[chee13]

I just traded Mike Evans for AJ Green. I feel pretty happy with the move, but hate to give up a 21 year old.

[venomreapers]

Kind of a lateral move, but could be big. AJG has a NFL pedigree and Evans only has one year right now. I think they hold about equal value so the multiple years of production wins out. Not bad.

[dblj1199]

Kind of a lateral move, but could be big. AJG has a NFL pedigree and Evans only has one year right now. I think they hold about equal value so the multiple years of production wins out. Not bad.

Agreed.

[chee13]

I did get him to throw in John Brown with Green as well.

[venomreapers]

I did get him to throw in John Brown with Green as well.

Well now it's just a complete win.

[HawkeyeState]

I would take Evans over AJG straight up so I don't like the move.
Even if I had them equal or AJG slightly ahead of Evans, wouldn't you want the 21 year old who is producing WR1 numbers for longer?
When Evans is as old as AJG is now (AJG is 27), AJG will be 33 and I'm pretty sure his dynasty value will be in the tank. Look at Andre Johnson, he needed a move to a pass happy Colts team to even remain on anyone's radar. If he was still in HOU or went to a crappy team nobody would care about him. Sure he's talented and big, but the fact is he is slowing down.
Mother nature, father time whatever you want to call it wins every time.

Even if you want to argue that AJG could be a WR1 or mid to low WR2 when he's 31 or so years old, you could make that same argument for Evans. So then 4 years after Evans turns 27 he will be 31 and AJG will be 37 and for sure out of the league. So again, you traded a younger asset with just as high of a ceiling as AJG and just as high of a floor as AJG to essentially shorten your overall production window.
John Brown throw-in means nothing to me honestly as I doubt he ever reaches his TY Hilton comps.

Sorry, I can't endorse this move at all

[princey98]

I would take Evans over AJG straight up so I don't like the move.
Even if I had them equal or AJG slightly ahead of Evans, wouldn't you want the 21 year old who is producing WR1 numbers for longer?
When Evans is as old as AJG is now (AJG is 27), AJG will be 33 and I'm pretty sure his dynasty value will be in the tank. Look at Andre Johnson, he needed a move to a pass happy Colts team to even remain on anyone's radar. If he was still in HOU or went to a crappy team nobody would care about him. Sure he's talented and big, but the fact is he is slowing down.
Mother nature, father time whatever you want to call it wins every time.

Even if you want to argue that AJG could be a WR1 or mid to low WR2 when he's 31 or so years old, you could make that same argument for Evans. So then 4 years after Evans turns 27 he will be 31 and AJG will be 37 and for sure out of the league. So again, you traded a younger asset with just as high of a ceiling as AJG and just as high of a floor as AJG to essentially shorten your overall production window.
John Brown throw-in means nothing to me honestly as I doubt he ever reaches his TY Hilton comps.

Sorry, I can't endorse this move at all

I can absolutely understand the Evans>Green argument, although I personally rank green higher. With that said, I have to push back on your assertion that Evans' floor is as high as Green's. Green has done it for several seasons, and this past season is his floor. Evans is playing with a rookie QB and has only done it for 1 season. I'm not saying I expect it to happen, but if one of the two is going to fall back to the pack, I would say Evans is far more likely.

[JJDubya]

Green, and it isn't close for me. I can't put much stock into anything beyond 3 years out. In 3 years, AJG will be on the cusp of decline, whereas Evans should be ascending - I totally get that. I haven't played dyno for too long, but one thing I have noticed in each of my leagues is the amount of turnover with the top WRs. Only Dez hasn't changed hands in any of my leagues. Julio, AJG, DT, AB, the sophomores, you name it, have all switched teams in multiple leagues; sometimes multiple times. My point is, over the course of a single calendar year a lot changes (AJG was consensus overall #1 in startups last year, now he's barely cracking the top 10). Making decisions about guys based on what their value is going to be in 4 or more years is crazy in a league where volatility is king, not age. I'm taking the guy with a track record of elite production, who is in his peak years well ahead of a guy who has put up a good stretch as a rookie and who "could" be elite one day, but hasn't earned that distinction yet.

[heyfeefellskee]

Great move.

[MR ROURKE]

I did get him to throw in John Brown with Green as well.

That's just crazy that the AJG side threw something in to get the deal done. Evans side should have been throwing something in. I like Evans a lot, but only 1 year and he's changed QB now. I think AJG is clearly a better all over talent which gives him a higher ceiling as well.

[Mjmart2]

I am more surprised on how everybody thinks it is a sure thing that Evans is a bona fide number one receiver. I typically want to see them play against the number one cornerback for a season to truly get an accurate depiction. I am not certain that is what happened the last six weeks of the season but Evans had a very unimpressive 12 point per game average during that span. I'd imagine after his tear that defenses started focusing on him and he didn't do anything special. Can he improve and adjust? Of course but that is no sure thing. Honestly, I think Watkins year last year impressed me more because he had the #1 corner on him from Day 1.

I'd take The sure thing Green here unless you are just starting a rebuild where I'd take the riskier Evans

[flashgordon12]

nice trade

[Balzac]

I would take Evans over AJG straight up so I don't like the move.
Even if I had them equal or AJG slightly ahead of Evans, wouldn't you want the 21 year old who is producing WR1 numbers for longer?
When Evans is as old as AJG is now (AJG is 27), AJG will be 33 and I'm pretty sure his dynasty value will be in the tank. Look at Andre Johnson, he needed a move to a pass happy Colts team to even remain on anyone's radar. If he was still in HOU or went to a crappy team nobody would care about him. Sure he's talented and big, but the fact is he is slowing down.
Mother nature, father time whatever you want to call it wins every time.

Even if you want to argue that AJG could be a WR1 or mid to low WR2 when he's 31 or so years old, you could make that same argument for Evans. So then 4 years after Evans turns 27 he will be 31 and AJG will be 37 and for sure out of the league. So again, you traded a younger asset with just as high of a ceiling as AJG and just as high of a floor as AJG to essentially shorten your overall production window.
John Brown throw-in means nothing to me honestly as I doubt he ever reaches his TY Hilton comps.

Sorry, I can't endorse this move at all

Obviously Evans will be around longer, but AJ's value isnt just going to drop off a cliff. This year especially I think AJ will do better than Evans. After that he can easily sell him for equal or greater value than he just bought him.

Getting John Brown is a huge win as well. He is looking to be the number one target in Arizona, and if Palmer can stay health he will take a step forward this year. I wouldn't sell him short. If anything he can be a good trade piece once he puts up a couple good games.

I like the trade. In the long run Evans will most likely over take AJ, but for the next 2-3 years it is a for sure win.

[StrikeAnywhere]

I'll take the Green side pretty easily even before you throw in Brown. Evans is nice and all, but he has a handful of good games on his resume. Green has 4 seasons of proven track record. And it's not like at 27 Green is over the hill. Historically he has roughly 6 years of elite level production left in him, and probably a couple of Brandon Marshall type years beyond that. Thinking much beyond a 3 year window even in dynasty is getting into very messy business... way too much changes to be banking on an "extra" 6 years of production from Evans to turn the tide on value.

[heyfeefellskee]

I would take Evans over AJG straight up so I don't like the move.
Even if I had them equal or AJG slightly ahead of Evans, wouldn't you want the 21 year old who is producing WR1 numbers for longer?
When Evans is as old as AJG is now (AJG is 27), AJG will be 33 and I'm pretty sure his dynasty value will be in the tank. Look at Andre Johnson, he needed a move to a pass happy Colts team to even remain on anyone's radar. If he was still in HOU or went to a crappy team nobody would care about him. Sure he's talented and big, but the fact is he is slowing down.
Mother nature, father time whatever you want to call it wins every time.

Even if you want to argue that AJG could be a WR1 or mid to low WR2 when he's 31 or so years old, you could make that same argument for Evans. So then 4 years after Evans turns 27 he will be 31 and AJG will be 37 and for sure out of the league. So again, you traded a younger asset with just as high of a ceiling as AJG and just as high of a floor as AJG to essentially shorten your overall production window.
John Brown throw-in means nothing to me honestly as I doubt he ever reaches his TY Hilton comps.

Sorry, I can't endorse this move at all

Evans is producing wr1 numbers?

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Only wr1 numbers I see are 12 TDs. Unless he's a lock to get those, that's not "wr1".

Don't get me wrong. I like the guy, I have hope for him... But AJG has been doing it for years with poor qb play. Evans did it once.