New Rookie Mock- Underway

[aaroneous]

2.05 I guess I'll take the leap, and know this is a bit on the assumption that he goes as the first QB off the board, but I'll take Teddy Bridgewater QB Louisville. I think the concerns over him are overblown. This guy has what it takes to help his team move forward. If Manziel goes first, I'd likely take him here, Bortles on the other hand I'd wait. I think its interesting to see if teams decide to build a team and then draft a QB in the 2nd/3rd like Wilson after watching Seahawks.

In a real draft, I'd probably go another position as I think there's developmental value that'll be available in the 3rd at QB.

[FiremanEd]

With the 2.06 I select LSU WR Jarvis Landry.

I really like his overall game - nice size, solid speed, competes for the ball in the air. While he doesn't blow you away with anything, I think he's a solid overall blend and will be a solid WR. Not sure what his ceiling is, but at 2.06 I feel he's a solid player who can add value to a roster.


I should also say that as a super flex player I can't believe how discounted QB's are in 1QB leagues. Surprised they are all the majority, given that they more or less remove a position from relevance. Yes it is important, but the draft just shows how it is overlooked, which is the opposite of the real draft. People could say NFL teams only start 1 QB, but to that I would counter that the NFL also has more than 12-16 teams and highly values QB's. This isn't the appropriate spot to discuss this, but this is my first 1QB mock and I'm just surprised that people who love fantasy so much go in leagues where the key position is almost an afterthought...

[TheRascal88]

It seems like the site has been having some tech issues today

[aaroneous]

It seems like the site has been having some tech issues today

Glad i'm not the only one experiencing this

[aaroneous]

With the 2.06 I select LSU WR Jarvis Landry.

I really like his overall game - nice size, solid speed, competes for the ball in the air. While he doesn't blow you away with anything, I think he's a solid overall blend and will be a solid WR. Not sure what his ceiling is, but at 2.06 I feel he's a solid player who can add value to a roster.


I should also say that as a super flex player I can't believe how discounted QB's are in 1QB leagues. Surprised they are all the majority, given that they more or less remove a position from relevance. Yes it is important, but the draft just shows how it is overlooked, which is the opposite of the real draft. People could say NFL teams only start 1 QB, but to that I would counter that the NFL also has more than 12-16 teams and highly values QB's. This isn't the appropriate spot to discuss this, but this is my first 1QB mock and I'm just surprised that people who love fantasy so much go in leagues where the key position is almost an afterthought...

I'm definitely starting to feel like I want to join some 2 qb or superflex leagues. I felt like normally I wanted to take Landry because I knew QBs would keep falling, but realistically having them ignored until mid way through the 2nd seemed a bit much. I think part of it is the uncertainty surrounding who goes where right now but... c'mon.

[TheRascal88]

I also have never done a 2QB or Superflex league and don't know if I will or not. However, the reason that QBs are so discounted in standard leagues is because after the first few are off the board (Peyton, Brees and Rodgers) the rest are pretty much in the same tier points wise. For example, in my main league, Peyton scored 430pts and Brees had 348pts. After those two guys, there were 14 QBs within 50pts of eachother (Stafford all the way down to Tannehill). So, in a startup draft, if i don't get one of those top 2-3 QBs, why would I take one in that big group when i can load up on Wrs and RBs and then grab a QB in the 5th,6th or 7th round? In a rookie draft, assuming there isn't a Luck, Cam or RGIII type prospect, why would I use a high pick on a QB who is most likely going to end up in that large group of "average" QBs?

To me, its all about the uncertainty surrounding the rookie QBs and where they will land. If Bridgewater ends up in Houston or Cleveland, he wouldn't have made it out of the 1st. Just my rational on your thoughts.

[schiewerma21]

At 2.07 I will take tre mason.
Walter football has him going to Tennessee where I believe he can start.

Not in love with mason but with the 19th pick in the draft I got my personal #5 rb. To me incredible value. If I walk with Hyde in mason in my real draft I will be thrilled!

[Big Al]

These tech issues keep resurfacing. I hope they get the bugs out soon.

[FiremanEd]

Well, issues or not, this is way slower than I expected.

[Defender]

With the 2.06 I select LSU WR Jarvis Landry.

I really like his overall game - nice size, solid speed, competes for the ball in the air. While he doesn't blow you away with anything, I think he's a solid overall blend and will be a solid WR. Not sure what his ceiling is, but at 2.06 I feel he's a solid player who can add value to a roster.


I should also say that as a super flex player I can't believe how discounted QB's are in 1QB leagues. Surprised they are all the majority, given that they more or less remove a position from relevance. Yes it is important, but the draft just shows how it is overlooked, which is the opposite of the real draft. People could say NFL teams only start 1 QB, but to that I would counter that the NFL also has more than 12-16 teams and highly values QB's. This isn't the appropriate spot to discuss this, but this is my first 1QB mock and I'm just surprised that people who love fantasy so much go in leagues where the key position is almost an afterthought...

I'm definitely starting to feel like I want to join some 2 qb or superflex leagues. I felt like normally I wanted to take Landry because I knew QBs would keep falling, but realistically having them ignored until mid way through the 2nd seemed a bit much. I think part of it is the uncertainty surrounding who goes where right now but... c'mon.

In my opinion, the best fix is not to have 2 QBs, but to have a scoring system where good quarterbacking is highly valued and bad quarterbacking has poor value. For example: TDs are 6 pts, INTs are -4 (or more) pts, pts for first downs, and pts given per comp & subtracted per incomp (a way to factor in the completion %). And make sure the system has the QB#1 ranking significantly higher points than the #1 of any other position, as well as a somewhat even spread from QB#1 to QB#12 (or 16, or 24, or 32, etc.).

I'm still trying to perfect one such system...

[FiremanEd]

I feel that is forcing their value by making their impact such that a single position can impact an entire matchup. Not sure how it changes things overall though given that only 12 start and 10 are locks. Sure a backup will have a little more value, but one guy keeps you set for 8 years.

I don't like 2QB leagues. It can be far too much a struggle to even get two if things break poorly.

Super flex with 4PT TDs is my preference given that it allows team flexibility, improves QB usefulness, and while still giving QBs high value, primarily still values those top guys. However, people are more likely to want that next QB even when they have one to have two starting. In my opinion, this takes the position away from the stale and stagnant position a 1 QB generally will bring.

Just my opinion though, and I can appreciate other people liking other formats. That said, like was mentioned, QBs in the standard format just lose appeal and are afterthoughts to RB/WR, which is an odd concept...

[Defender]

I feel that is forcing their value by making their impact such that a single position can impact an entire matchup. Not sure how it changes things overall though given that only 12 start and 10 are locks. Sure a backup will have a little more value, but one guy keeps you set for 8 years.

Is this not how a QB is in the NFL?

[aaroneous]

I feel that is forcing their value by making their impact such that a single position can impact an entire matchup. Not sure how it changes things overall though given that only 12 start and 10 are locks. Sure a backup will have a little more value, but one guy keeps you set for 8 years.

Definitely lead to me drafting a young guy for the first time in my startup so that I can more or less ignore the position with the exception of grabbing a backup that someone sees as too old every couple years.

[TheRascal88]

Just a heads up that I did notify flashgordon that he is OTC. If he doesn't pick by 7pm tonight, We'll just have someone make the pick and move along.

[N.C. Nightcrawlers]

I was worried you guys might be waiting on me. Been a hectic day at work. I'll keep my eyes open.