The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

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Re: This could we WAAAY to early, but has Mike Williams finally turned the corner??

Postby Major_Loser » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:25 am

So is this a sell high moment or if you are contending ride this thing out?
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12 team .5 PPR league
1 Qb, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE
QB: Herbert, Tannehill
RB: Josh Jacobs, Dobbins, Charbs, Ford
WR: Chase, Waddle, AJB, Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, Rashid Shaheed
TE: Waller, Chig, Njoku

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Re: This could we WAAAY to early, but has Mike Williams finally turned the corner??

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:12 am

Major_Loser wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:25 am So is this a sell high moment or if you are contending ride this thing out?
Depends on who you could get for him. Otherwise, I'd ride it out and see if he can help win leagues

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Re: This could we WAAAY to early, but has Mike Williams finally turned the corner??

Postby Anteaters » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:18 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 4:15 pm the single best indicator of a WR putting up a 1k yard season is a player who has done it already.
So so true! I wanted to get some shares of Williams, but didn't pull the trigger one time. Regrets? I've got a few.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: This could we WAAAY to early, but has Mike Williams finally turned the corner??

Postby dustyroads » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:29 am

He was drafted in the 1st round, 7th overall. He's flashed in the past (so the skill/talent isn't out of nowhere). The Chargers finally moved on from Rivers who couldn't throw downfield his last two years with the team. Their current QB is one of the leagues top talents at the position. The team and Herbert trust him and are scheming him more production, which they said they were going to do. He's in his 5th year, and hardly got any reps his first year. IMO the lost 1st year, subpar QB play years 2/3, and his injuries have turned a standard 3rd year breakout into what we are seeing now. If he stays healthy, I think with Herbert he's a top 10 WR going forward.

If you are rebuilding and looking to move him, I wouldn't sell until playoff time to a contender to guarantee it's a high 1st round pick. Otherwise, hold strong and watch as your patience with him pays off. I bought him with a late 1st after his 2rd year and seeing some of the numbers on him. Yes he excels at contested catches, one of the best in the league at it, but he also routinely gets separation against man coverage, and is showing this year he can find the soft spots in a zone as well. He's the truth imo.

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby Major_Loser » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:26 pm

Has he cooled off enough to worry? I got offered Calvin Ridley for him today and thinking about it.
Team 1
12 team .5 PPR league
1 Qb, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE
QB: Herbert, Tannehill
RB: Josh Jacobs, Dobbins, Charbs, Ford
WR: Chase, Waddle, AJB, Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, Rashid Shaheed
TE: Waller, Chig, Njoku

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby Hankybro21 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:55 pm

Major_Loser wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:26 pm Has he cooled off enough to worry? I got offered Calvin Ridley for him today and thinking about it.
It's because I've been starting him. My bad.

Also I would probably take the Ridley gamble
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce

Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.04, 1.05, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early), 1st (early), 1st (mid)

Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, MHJ, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Brooks, Ekeler
T: Andrews, Granson

Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby Major_Loser » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:57 pm

Hankybro21 wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:55 pm
Major_Loser wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:26 pm Has he cooled off enough to worry? I got offered Calvin Ridley for him today and thinking about it.
It's because I've been starting him. My bad.

Also I would probably take the Ridley gamble
I just clicked accept.
Team 1
12 team .5 PPR league
1 Qb, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE
QB: Herbert, Tannehill
RB: Josh Jacobs, Dobbins, Charbs, Ford
WR: Chase, Waddle, AJB, Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, Rashid Shaheed
TE: Waller, Chig, Njoku

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby KJD5154 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:57 pm

Someone dropped Mike Williams before cuts and I drafted him in the 3rd rd of my draft this year (rookies and FAs).

I got offered a 1st for him two weeks ago and the trade is still there. It was 1.9 then (based on record) and now sits at 1.3. The owner is 2 losses from 1.1 and two wins from making the playoffs.

What is the etiquette on taking trades that haven't been revoked? Is it fair to accept?
TEAM 1
Superflex. 1/2 PPR. No TE position.
QB: Burrow, Herbert , Murray, Young
RB: Barkley, James Cook, Achane, Brian Robinson, Spears
WR/TE: Lamb, Higgins, Godwin, Amon-Ra St Brown, Jayden Reed, G. Wilson, C. Olave, Zay Flowers, T. Boyd
K: Gay
DEF: Seahawks
2024 Picks: 2.01, 2.04, 2.08, 5.04

TEAM 2
Superflex. 1/2 PPR. No TE position, no K, no DEF.
QB: Kyler, Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson, J. Stidham
RB: Bijan, JT, Kenneth Walker, Breece Hall, Allgeier, Elijah Mitchell, Isaiah Spiller
WR/TE: AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Nico Collins, Garrett Wilson, Pickens, Godwin, R. Rice, AT Perry, D. Wicks
2024 Picks: 2.04, 2.08, 2.11, 3.12, 4.11

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby Major_Loser » Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:14 pm

KJD5154 wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:57 pm Someone dropped Mike Williams before cuts and I drafted him in the 3rd rd of my draft this year (rookies and FAs).

I got offered a 1st for him two weeks ago and the trade is still there. It was 1.9 then (based on record) and now sits at 1.3. The owner is 2 losses from 1.1 and two wins from making the playoffs.

What is the etiquette on taking trades that haven't been revoked? Is it fair to accept?
100% fair to accept, you are responsible for your own trade queue.
Team 1
12 team .5 PPR league
1 Qb, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE
QB: Herbert, Tannehill
RB: Josh Jacobs, Dobbins, Charbs, Ford
WR: Chase, Waddle, AJB, Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, Rashid Shaheed
TE: Waller, Chig, Njoku

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby Anteaters » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:08 pm

Major_Loser wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:14 pm 100% fair to accept, you are responsible for your own trade queue.
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Although I'll add that if it's a league where you know everyone and are friendly with everyone, I might text him and let him know I was about to accept the trade. However, I don't think you are wrong if you accept the lingering offer without a heads-up.

Who knows, maybe he knows the offer is still active and he's hoping you accept.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby IR1 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:30 pm

Anteaters wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:08 pm
Major_Loser wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:14 pm 100% fair to accept, you are responsible for your own trade queue.
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Although I'll add that if it's a league where you know everyone and are friendly with everyone, I might text him and let him know I was about to accept the trade. However, I don't think you are wrong if you accept the lingering offer without a heads-up.

Who knows, maybe he knows the offer is still active and he's hoping you accept.
No problem accepting, but could reject and then send the same offer
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:39 pm

KJD5154 wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:57 pm Someone dropped Mike Williams before cuts and I drafted him in the 3rd rd of my draft this year (rookies and FAs).

I got offered a 1st for him two weeks ago and the trade is still there. It was 1.9 then (based on record) and now sits at 1.3. The owner is 2 losses from 1.1 and two wins from making the playoffs.

What is the etiquette on taking trades that haven't been revoked? Is it fair to accept?
I vote fair, if they want to send out trade offers and not cancel them after a certain period of time that is on them. Plus 2 wins from playoffs could net you 1.12
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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1.02, 1.06

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby Pullo Vision » Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:32 pm

IR1 wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:30 pm
Anteaters wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:08 pm
Major_Loser wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:14 pm 100% fair to accept, you are responsible for your own trade queue.
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Although I'll add that if it's a league where you know everyone and are friendly with everyone, I might text him and let him know I was about to accept the trade. However, I don't think you are wrong if you accept the lingering offer without a heads-up.

Who knows, maybe he knows the offer is still active and he's hoping you accept.
No problem accepting, but could reject and then send the same offer
In a redraft of randos, definitely see accepting. In a dynasty, or league of friends, the relationships are important for future trades. In those case, I communicate I'm gonna accept a trade if it's been hanging around. I like this angle, too.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:14 pm

Chargers resigned him for 3 yr / 60M.

Probably the best thing possible for him. Puts a damper on the Palmer hype for now though. Wonder how much longer Keenan plays at a high level

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Re: The Mike Williams Thread: Finally turned the corner?

Postby JTLoh » Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:45 pm

Major_Loser wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:57 pm Has he cooled off enough to worry? I got offered Calvin Ridley for him today and thinking about it.
Major_Loser wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:57 pm I just clicked accept.
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CONTENTION 2
QB - D.Prescott, J.Hurts
RB - J.Jacobs, C-Patt, JRob, BRob, D.Pierce, TDP, H.Haskins
WR - Ceedee, J.Jefferson, JuJu, A.Pierce, Meyers, NWI
TE - M.Andrews, Brevin, J.Woods, L.Thomas
Defense: Cowboys/Viks

CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH
QB - Mahomes, Cousins, Love, Mond, Rush, M.White, Strong
RB - C-Patt, Singletary, K.Herbert, Foreman, Hubbard, Lindsay
WR - Lockett, Hollywood, OBJ, Golladay, AJG, Hardman, Meyers, Osborn, ISM
TE - Kelsey, Ertz, G.Everett, Bryant
Taxi - BRob, TDP, Ingram, A.Smith, K.Phillips, Metchie, Shakir, Tolbert, Thorton, J.Woods, S.Thompson

ALL THE MARBLES
QB - TB12, J.Hurts, Stafford
RB - Ekeler, Zeke, C-Patt, Mack, Rhamondre, BRob, R.White, Foreman
WR - AJ Brown, London, Watson, A.Pierce, Burks, OBJ, Golladay, Amon-Ra, Marshall
TE - Gronk, T.Higbee, D.Arnold, Ebron
Defense: Bills/Saints


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