2023 Draft

[Jigga94]

Just killing time like a degenerate. Here's a rough draft set of post-draft rookie rankings for fun. Anything seem really out of place. Who'd I miss?

-Rookie Superflex Rankings-
1.01 Bijan
1.02 Anthony Richardson
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1.03 Bryce Young
1.04 C.J. Shroud
1.05 Gibbs
1.06 JSN
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1.07 Addison
1.08 QJ
1.09 Flowers
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1.10 Will Levis
1.11 Dalton Kincaid
1.12 Devon Achane
2.01 Michael Mayer
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2.02 Zach Charbonnet
2.03 Kendre Miller
2.04 Jonathan Mingo
2.05 Hendon Hooker
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2.06 Rashee Rice
2.07 Jayden Reed
2.08 Sam LaPorta
2.09 Tyjae Spears
2.10 Roschon Johnson
2.11 Luke Schoonmaker
2.12 Luke Musgrave
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3.01 Tank Bigsby
3.02 Marvin Mims
3.03 Josh Downs
3.04 Chase Brown
3.05 Israel Abanikanda
3.06 Jalin Hyatt
3.07 Evan Hull
3.08 Brenton Strange
3.09 Cedric Tillman
3.10 Tucker Kraft
3.11 Darnell Washington
3.12 Michael Wilson
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4.01 Eric Gray
4.02 Zach Evans
4.03 Deuce Vaughn
4.04 Kayshon Boutte
4.05 Chris Rodriguez
4.06 Tank Dell
4.07 Sean Tucker
4.08 Lew Nichols
4.09 DeWayne McBride
4.10 Kenny McIntosh
4.11 ??
4.12 ??

???

Without getting too focused on the 3rd and beyond, I think this looks pretty good. Personally have Roschon and Mims a tad higher and would likely be taking shots on QBs like Tune and DTR instead of guys like Rodriguez and Boutte.

[Patsfan86]

I don’t play superflex but Richardson is def the best potential fantasy QB. It really is funny how much better this draft looks in SF than 1 QB. The difference is hilarious. Love it and hate it

[abloom]

I have a 16tm 4pt passing TD league with the 1.02 and I'm hoping Bijan goes ahead of me to make the decision on AR easier.

Then I have a regular 12tm 6pt passing TD league with the 1.03 and I'm hoping both Bijan+AR go ahead of me because I don't actually want to take AR in that league lol. Also, I want to diversify my players so I don't want two copies of Richardson. Rankings are always subject to league format and situation.

If that's a 16 team SF, I don't see how bijan can be in the top 3. QB value is just way to high and careers too long. There may be no Lawrence in this draft but stroud and young aren't too shabby. When it comes to Richardson you have to hope he is more hurts and less lance. We'll see how he develops, but everyone seems to agree that he needs to develop. I think we are both agreeing that he has the higher ceiling but getting a consistent qb1 like cousins is worth it as well. They may never be valued as top QBs but as long as they put up qb1 numbers I'm good.

[Pullo Vision]

Why did GB use two day 2 picks on TE? Are they just putting Musgrave and Kraft in a pit and saying best man wins the majority of the snaps?

[abloom]

Why did GB use two day 2 picks on TE? Are they just putting Musgrave and Kraft in a pit and saying best man wins the majority of the snaps?

Or they plan on using one for receptions and one for blocking

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Why did GB use two day 2 picks on TE? Are they just putting Musgrave and Kraft in a pit and saying best man wins the majority of the snaps?

They did the same with Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams.

[cazzie33]

Why did GB use two day 2 picks on TE? Are they just putting Musgrave and Kraft in a pit and saying best man wins the majority of the snaps?

TWO for DAY TWO SPECIALS ???

[Patsfan86]

Anyway, JJ or not I’m still pretty high on Jordan Addison. Think he’s gonna be a Devonta Smith. What would you add to the 1.05 to jump up 1 spot and secure him?

[Ice]

Why did GB use two day 2 picks on TE? Are they just putting Musgrave and Kraft in a pit and saying best man wins the majority of the snaps?

Musgrave is a lot like Kincaid. Very good as a move type TE but blocking deficient.

Those two will be good in 2 TE sets.

GB without Rodgers will probably be running more 12 personnel for ball control reasons.

[ericanadian]

Why did GB use two day 2 picks on TE? Are they just putting Musgrave and Kraft in a pit and saying best man wins the majority of the snaps?

Baltimore did the same with Andrews and Hurst.

[FantasyFreak]

Why did GB use two day 2 picks on TE? Are they just putting Musgrave and Kraft in a pit and saying best man wins the majority of the snaps?

Musgrave is a lot like Kincaid. Very good as a move type TE but blocking deficient.

Those two will be good in 2 TE sets.

GB without Rodgers will probably be running more 12 personnel for ball control reasons.

Agreed.

[abloom]

Anyway, JJ or not I’m still pretty high on Jordan Addison. Think he’s gonna be a Devonta Smith. What would you add to the 1.05 to jump up 1 spot and secure him?

I don't think you need to add much. A mid to late second could get it done.

[moishetreats]

Why did GB use two day 2 picks on TE? Are they just putting Musgrave and Kraft in a pit and saying best man wins the majority of the snaps?

I think there are two seemingly contradictory answers, both of which can still be true at the same time:

1) The GB offense (clearly) needs a productive TE. So they drafted two, more likely insuring they'd get one (the Packers, by the way, have doubled and tripled down on a position of need in a draft a LOT over the years); and
2) LaFleur's vision for his offense includes a lot of 2TE sets, including one being used at times in the FB role.

[Lumps]

This is where the fantasy football community's evaluations, hopes and wishes meet real life.

Every year, after the draft, the NFL abruptly tells us what we should think about these types of players. Frankly, people die in fantasy in a matter of days. You just say your goodbyes and close the casket. If a player truly has WR1 and RB3 outcomes... the chance that professional NFL evaluators would have let them slide this far down is very, very small. Like a 6th round WR?... eesh

I somewhat agree on the minimal risk if you can get them at late 3rd/4th rookie pick prices... that's if I have multiple 3rds and 4ths to burn and go into it knowing I'll probably be over the roster limit and flat out dropping them or stashing them on taxi or taking a fat 0 when all is said and done.

If I'm ever making those late picks seriously considering this guy might finish #1 rookie in the class I think I gotta pull back and temper expectations big time.

Personally, in that range, I'm probably just taking RBs like Zach Evans, Evan Hull, DeWayne McBride, Deuce Vaughn, etc

I used the words alternate universe for a reason. I really just meant they have a lot of talent Imo but other things have happened or their personalities take away from that talent. I mean Boutte in the 3rd offers no risk Imo, how often do 3rd round picks even work? May as well take these guys there.

I looked back on this in one of my leagues and on average you get about 2-3 startable players per year in the 3rd round. Some notable examples would be Dak, Kupp, McLaurin, James Conner, Goedert. Last year Allgeier and potentially Sam Howell (and potentially Brian robinson). Year before that you had Rhamandre. Of course it will be different for every league. So ~20% chance of getting a usable fantasy asset really isn’t that bad. The 4th round is where things really drop off a cliff.

This was a very interesting perspective to read. Very divergent from me, as I am a “go get your guy” kind of manager. Usually, I wind up with depth problems.

I have a 14 team 2 QB devy league and I’m go full Rams “eff then picks” as far as the rookie draft 2nd and 3rd rounds. But, each year, as we all do, I get that desire when I’m watching the 2nd and 3rd round from the sidelines as regardless of the devy depletion I’m still wanting someone.

I’ll think this over, thanks for posting.

[murphysxm]

I always enjoy watching the landing spot overreactions this soon after a draft. Somebody said it earlier that this will be a rookie draft that rewards talent evaluators that don’t rely as heavily on landing spot. Should be a fun fantasy rookie draft to look back on.