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Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:39 pm
by Cgindecent
You think Samuels could be the guy over Conner next year?

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:51 pm
by Badkins1121
xxironskullxx wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:11 am I just picked him up on waivers in my Yahoo league and I'm starting him over Uzomah which is a no brainer lol. Any chance Yahoo changes his TE classification before kickoff?
They aren’t gonna change it. They say this on Twitter...

“On Jaylen Samuels:

He's had RB/TE eligibility all season. If we remove TE eligibility today, it would not take effect until this evening, after most claims had been made. We felt it was not fair to change so late in the day or season.

Samuels will remain an RB/TE in our game.”

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:48 pm
by Krypto_King
Badkins1121 wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:51 pm
xxironskullxx wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:11 am I just picked him up on waivers in my Yahoo league and I'm starting him over Uzomah which is a no brainer lol. Any chance Yahoo changes his TE classification before kickoff?
They aren’t gonna change it. They say this on Twitter...

“On Jaylen Samuels:

He's had RB/TE eligibility all season. If we remove TE eligibility today, it would not take effect until this evening, after most claims had been made. We felt it was not fair to change so late in the day or season.

Samuels will remain an RB/TE in our game.”
Yet they changed all their pre-draft rankings the day before THE biggest draft day of the year. Yahoo is the worst.

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:08 pm
by xxironskullxx
Badkins1121 wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:51 pm
xxironskullxx wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:11 am I just picked him up on waivers in my Yahoo league and I'm starting him over Uzomah which is a no brainer lol. Any chance Yahoo changes his TE classification before kickoff?
They aren’t gonna change it. They say this on Twitter...

“On Jaylen Samuels:

He's had RB/TE eligibility all season. If we remove TE eligibility today, it would not take effect until this evening, after most claims had been made. We felt it was not fair to change so late in the day or season.

Samuels will remain an RB/TE in our game.”
Sweetness :dance:

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:29 pm
by Jfever
:wink:
Cgindecent wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:39 pm You think Samuels could be the guy over Conner next year?
I personally doubt it. But, stranger things have happened. If JS takes major advantage of this situation and does something big with the opportunity, he could make a case for himself. More likely imo, he retains the primary back up role and vultures some touches n points here and there if Conner is healthy.

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:41 pm
by Forza_Azzurri
JFever wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:29 pm :wink:
Cgindecent wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:39 pm You think Samuels could be the guy over Conner next year?
I personally doubt it. But, stranger things have happened. If JS takes major advantage of this situation and does something big with the opportunity, he could make a case for himself. More likely imo, he retains the primary back up role and vultures some touches n points here and there if Conner is healthy.
Yeah ... he's going to need more than 1 or 2 games to climb the depth chart. Don't forget that Conner is a hometown favorite with a great personal interest story who has performed well thus far.

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:41 pm
by Cgindecent
Yeah I was just seeing how his Valhalla was on him so figured I would ask. I have him in taxi so not sure I want to bring him up and drop Dion Lewis just for one game but it's not like I can start Dion either

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:05 am
by Pet_Smith
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:31 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:01 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:52 pm
Even if Ridley plays some snaps and takes the goal-line role, Samuels will get enough carries between the 20s and receptions as the receiving back to be a mid-range RB2 in PPR. Kittle is a top-4 TE every week, but even that doesn't compare to RB2 numbers startable in the TE slot. Gronk is an elite talent at TE, but he has been far from an elite fantasy TE this year. I think it's an easy call to start Samuels over either one at TE.
I wouldn't feel comfortable benching a top notch TE for a rookie swiss army knife on a pass heavy team with elite WRs.
Fair enough. I could see an argument for Kittle over Samuels, but Gronk? He's hardly been reliable this year, let alone a must-start. What's your rationale for Samuels over Gronk?
I can see both sides to the Samuels debate - but I'm still starting Kittle over him. Gronk? Nah - much rather roll with Samuels. Kittle has seen such high usage, and likely that SF will need to air it out a lot this weekend, so until I've seen otherwise, he carries the least risk which is what I want for playoff week. If you think your a heavy underdog, and believe in Samuels then I could see the rationale. Gronk on the other hand has been worse than Burton this year.

Samuels has come out and said he is starting this week, but that Ridley is getting the second series, then it'll be the hot hand. Make of that what you will, for me it's the basic risk-reward scenario...

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:29 am
by Space Cowboy
Brighter dynasty out look --- Hines or Samuels?

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:36 am
by Phaded
Space Cowboy wrote: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:29 am Brighter dynasty out look --- Hines or Samuels?
I'm of the belief that the Colts are much more likely to add a big time RB than the Steelers; so I would rather have Samuels.

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:52 am
by Jfever
In ppr scoring, I believe the answer is Hines. Samuels relevancy will hinge upon Conner's health. No way I'd bet on Samuels dethroning a Healthy J.Conner. Hines will have a role in Indi unless of course L.Bell goes there. If that happens, I reserve the right to change my answer. lol

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:12 pm
by FantasyFreak
Valhalla wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:19 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:01 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:52 pm
Even if Ridley plays some snaps and takes the goal-line role, Samuels will get enough carries between the 20s and receptions as the receiving back to be a mid-range RB2 in PPR. Kittle is a top-4 TE every week, but even that doesn't compare to RB2 numbers startable in the TE slot. Gronk is an elite talent at TE, but he has been far from an elite fantasy TE this year. I think it's an easy call to start Samuels over either one at TE.
I wouldn't feel comfortable benching a top notch TE for a rookie swiss army knife on a pass heavy team with elite WRs.
I love Kittle. I said about a month ago he's my #2 in dynasty behind Kelce (I'm a huge Goedert fan so that knocks Ertz' future in my eyes, and Kittle's QB situation will improve).
That said, you're stating the best of one situation (Kittle is currently top 4) and the worst of another (rookie swiss army knife that may be ignored). Someone could easily do the opposite and say "I'll take the RB that has the tools to be involved in all facets of the game in a highly explosive offense with a QB that has shown over and over again he knows how to utilize such a weapon over a tight end in a low scoring offense with a crappy QB."

I could see it going either way, because that's just the way football is, but I think Samuels gets more opportunities than Kittle.
That isn't exactly objective ranking. LOL. Your love for Goedert doesn't affect the reality of Ertz's production. I think Kittle would be around 3 for me, but pushing 2 due to age.

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:34 pm
by problemsolver
How is Samuels doing?

Kittle having a decent first half.

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:38 pm
by AussieMate
Well, in the battle of Kittle vs Samuels, I think Kittle may have this round.

Re: Jaylen Samuels

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 pm
by Krypto_King
Ridley got the first goal line work, Ben has been missing like crazy. Awesome toe tap by Juju