AP to the Pats

[ericanadian]

Congratulations on living in Boston. Yeah every team hates fumbles, the Pats will straight up bench people for fumbling the ball. Other teams will just let the guy keep going. That's the difference

http://www.draftsharks.com/shark-bites/ ... r-fumbling
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2016/10/ ... 477897781/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... a-fumbler/
http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/footba ... ng-issues/
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cinc ... hed-092015
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/re ... ing/211112
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-s ... story.html
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... n-on-bench

Anyways, your point is still terrible. Adrian Peterson might not sign with NE, but they've signed backs with worse fumbling problems.
Adrian Peterson- fumble rate of 1.466%
LeGarrette Blount fumble rate prior to signing with NE- 2.01%
Rex Burkhead- fumble rate of 1.652%

The recent injury history and cost are also factors, but your comps are hilarious.

First, AD isn't in his prime so pulling his career rate is pretty misleading when he's been fumbling at a 2.02% clip over the past two seasons.

Burkhead is an incredibly small sample size and had a rate of 1.1% last season. This is a huge stretch.

Blount is more reasonable, but Blount was 26 and had worked with Schiano whom Belichick seems to trust. My guess is they saw something correctable and corrected it. He also cost peanuts as a third year player. Even if AD takes the vet minimum he'll be getting just short of a million annually and I have my doubts that he's willing to play for the vet minimum.

[Valhalla]

I wonder if we can get a stat for fumble rates in big games. Or fumble rates in the playoffs

[ericanadian]

I wonder if we can get a stat for fumble rates in big games. Or fumble rates in the playoffs

AD's rate in the playoffs is excellent. Unfortunately hs YPC drops pretty much the same number of points.

[whodunnit]

Congratulations on living in Boston. Yeah every team hates fumbles, the Pats will straight up bench people for fumbling the ball. Other teams will just let the guy keep going. That's the difference

http://www.draftsharks.com/shark-bites/ ... r-fumbling
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2016/10/ ... 477897781/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... a-fumbler/
http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/footba ... ng-issues/
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cinc ... hed-092015
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/re ... ing/211112
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-s ... story.html
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... n-on-bench

Anyways, your point is still terrible. Adrian Peterson might not sign with NE, but they've signed backs with worse fumbling problems.
Adrian Peterson- fumble rate of 1.466%
LeGarrette Blount fumble rate prior to signing with NE- 2.01%
Rex Burkhead- fumble rate of 1.652%

You win man. Blount's 16 career fumbles and Burkhead's 2 career fumbles are worse than AP's 34 career fumbles. AP averages over 3 a season and Blount averages 2 a season. The fumble rate doesn't really count. It's like saying "well if so and so had this many receptions he would have had this many yards" it doesn't matter because it didn't happen. I get he touches the ball a lot more. At the end of the day, when did Blount ever have 6 or 9 fumbles in a season? I get it though, you think AP is still relevant. I don't. He looked like crap before his injury last year and I fully believe he is washed up. And even if you take his fumbles out of the equation, he's still not good at pass protection. There's a reason AP is still on the market and only 2 teams have had him in for a workout.

[whodunnit]

Congratulations on living in Boston. Yeah every team hates fumbles, the Pats will straight up bench people for fumbling the ball. Other teams will just let the guy keep going. That's the difference

http://www.draftsharks.com/shark-bites/ ... r-fumbling
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2016/10/ ... 477897781/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... a-fumbler/
http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/footba ... ng-issues/
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cinc ... hed-092015
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/re ... ing/211112
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-s ... story.html
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... n-on-bench

Anyways, your point is still terrible. Adrian Peterson might not sign with NE, but they've signed backs with worse fumbling problems.
Adrian Peterson- fumble rate of 1.466%
LeGarrette Blount fumble rate prior to signing with NE- 2.01%
Rex Burkhead- fumble rate of 1.652%

Also, everyone gives Ridley crap for fumble problems and hes not even as bad as AP.

[ArrylT]

I think most owners can agree that Bil Belichick is very astute. I think many on here would also agree that many people who post on here are pretty astute. Ergo it only makes sense that Belichick visits the DLF forums, anonymously of course - probably the #1 reason why Coogan sees so many anonymous lurkers is because they are Patriot scouts working for Belichick. Ergo the main reason AP did not sign with the Patriots is that Belichick saw so many other astute people pooh-poohing the idea, and said "I've changed my mind - cannot look like an idiot in front of DLF".

[whodunnit]

I think most owners can agree that Bil Belichick is very astute. I think many on here would also agree that many people who post on here are pretty astute. Ergo it only makes sense that Belichick visits the DLF forums, anonymously of course - probably the #1 reason why Coogan sees so many anonymous lurkers is because they are Patriot scouts working for Belichick. Ergo the main reason AP did not sign with the Patriots is that Belichick saw so many other astute people pooh-poohing the idea, and said "I've changed my mind - cannot look like an idiot in front of DLF".

Touché

[Valhalla]

I think most owners can agree that Bil Belichick is very astute. I think many on here would also agree that many people who post on here are pretty astute. Ergo it only makes sense that Belichick visits the DLF forums, anonymously of course - probably the #1 reason why Coogan sees so many anonymous lurkers is because they are Patriot scouts working for Belichick. Ergo the main reason AP did not sign with the Patriots is that Belichick saw so many other astute people pooh-poohing the idea, and said "I've changed my mind - cannot look like an idiot in front of DLF".

That sounds plausible to me. I am rather astute

[Valhalla]

I'm still surprised the 49ers passed up on interviewing coogan for GM

[OhCruelestRanter]

You win man. Blount's 16 career fumbles and Burkhead's 2 career fumbles are worse than AP's 34 career fumbles. AP averages over 3 a season and Blount averages 2 a season. The fumble rate doesn't really count. It's like saying "well if so and so had this many receptions he would have had this many yards" it doesn't matter because it didn't happen. I get he touches the ball a lot more. At the end of the day, when did Blount ever have 6 or 9 fumbles in a season?

Again, I don't know, this just seems pretty dumb. I'm having trouble believing that somebody can't process that the rate at which you fumble is more important than the raw number of times you fumble. Personally, I don't think you (or anybody) is that stupid. I think what happened was:

1. You made a point that the Pats won't sign AD (who is AP?) because of his fumbling issues.
2. I pointed out that the Pats have recently signed guys with similar fumbling rates.
3. You decided f--- it, you're not taking an L here, so you're just going to spout a bunch of nonsense about fumbles per season and hope nobody notices.

I get it though, you think AP is still relevant. I don't. He looked like crap before his injury last year and I fully believe he is washed up. And even if you take his fumbles out of the equation, he's still not good at pass protection. There's a reason AP is still on the market and only 2 teams have had him in for a workout.

I don't think Peterson has much left in the tank, and I agree that he's a very limited back. I own zero shares of him and will not be looking to acquire him. I just think your reasoning was bad.