The Tyreek Hill Thread

[Mjvb5]

watching him play the thing with his speed is he's just legit the fastest guy on the field pretty much at any time. so even if he loses some of it he'd still be an elite level speed threat
On top of that he's improved as a WR every year

[dynastyninja]

As long as Andy Reid is his coach I'd feel comfortable.

I'll never own the guy, though. He's a scumbag.

[tcxoq5]

I wouldn't be worried about speed failing over the next 3... or 5 years. I don't plan out my rosters beyond 5 years really, and I don't see any other point on your list of cons that scares me off...maybe there are other points to be made against, but I think the list of pros could be expounded upon too.
So I think he keeps it up long enough to give me time to worry about my WR2-6, RB's,QB,TE,Kand D!
Worst case scenario tho, Ill say in 7 or 8 years that he's 31yr old Desean Jackson - who is currently WR 17 in my ppr with near 18 a game and ahead of plenty of WRs I'd give a first round pick.

[Pac_Eddy]

I wasn't a believer when he first broke out. I saw the long scores and thought there's no way it would last. He's proven me wrong. I think he'll be an elite fantasy play for the foreseeable future. Like others have said, young Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid are a very big plus for his outlook.

[FantasyFreak]

As long as Andy Reid is his coach I'd feel comfortable.

I'll never own the guy, though. He's a scumbag.

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[Kelldon]

I think he will do this for several more years. I was also skeptical at first, but he's done it enough to make me a believer.

Also why is he a scumbag? Don't know much about him off the field. What has he done?

[Jigga94]

I think he will do this for several more years. I was also skeptical at first, but he's done it enough to make me a believer.

Also why is he a scumbag? Don't know much about him off the field. What has he done?

Domestic abuse. He beat his pregnant gf (which he was found guilty). Got kicked out of his school for it. Lots of criticism when he was drafted.

Dont feel bad I had to look it up an hour ago as well

[lukkynumber13]

He’s much more than just super fast. He’s insanely quick & explosive, AND a world class burner.

He also has shown some ridiculous body control and great route running.

He’s sort of a poor man’s AB, mixed with prime Desean Jackson.

[Multiple Scorgasms]

Speed goes? They say that? Has DeSean Jackson slowed much over this long career? Even Vick came out of prison and seemed faster than most guys on the field.

So I don't know if his speed deteriorates much at all, and accordingly I think he'll be scary for his entire career if he stays healthy.

[dynastyninja]

I think he will do this for several more years. I was also skeptical at first, but he's done it enough to make me a believer.

Also why is he a scumbag? Don't know much about him off the field. What has he done?

Domestic abuse. He beat his pregnant gf (which he was found guilty). Got kicked out of his school for it. Lots of criticism when he was drafted.

Dont feel bad I had to look it up an hour ago as well

From wiki:
"Stillwater police records indicate that on December 12, 2014, Hill was arrested on complaints of assault of his 20-year-old pregnant girlfriend, Crystal Espinal. The police report states that Espinal said the two got into an argument and he threw her around like a ragdoll, punched her in the face, sat on her and repeatedly punched her in the stomach, and choked her."

I try not to be the morality police, but part of the enjoyment for me is owning players I like. While I love his on-field play, I just would not enjoy owning the guy.

[kris_kapsner]

I'd feel as comfortable owning Hill as any other #1 in the league. He is a beast and should continue to do so in that offense for the foreseeable future.

They have their elite franchise QB with a coach that knows how to use him.

They have elite weapons opposite of him with Kelce and Watkins.

They have an elite rushing attack to keep defenses honest.

All of these pieces are young. So, to answer you question: Many years.

[Blueboy]

I think he will do this for several more years. I was also skeptical at first, but he's done it enough to make me a believer.

Also why is he a scumbag? Don't know much about him off the field. What has he done?

Domestic abuse. He beat his pregnant gf (which he was found guilty). Got kicked out of his school for it. Lots of criticism when he was drafted.

Dont feel bad I had to look it up an hour ago as well

From wiki:
"Stillwater police records indicate that on December 12, 2014, Hill was arrested on complaints of assault of his 20-year-old pregnant girlfriend, Crystal Espinal. The police report states that Espinal said the two got into an argument and he threw her around like a ragdoll, punched her in the face, sat on her and repeatedly punched her in the stomach, and choked her."

I try not to be the morality police, but part of the enjoyment for me is owning players I like. While I love his on-field play, I just would not enjoy owning the guy.

I feel very similarly, own him as my WR 1 in one league and have been looking to move him. Problem is I'm expecting top 10 WR value, and my leaguemates seem to value him around the level of a single 2019 1st based on the offers I've gotten. Strong hold, but I'm not happy about if.

[JoshGordonsDealer]

I don't want to give the wrong impression: what Hill did to his girlfriend is heinous. The fact that she was pregnant at the time makes it exceedingly worse. In no way do I think he can ever undo or make amends for that.

It should be said that he's stayed squeaky clean and does an immense amount of good for the KC community. I don't blame anyone for avoiding him as an asset on a moral stand, in fact, I admire it. But I also admire that Hill is seemingly trying to do well by his family, team, and community. People can do something bleep stupid and learn from it, even if it's rare.

Edit: Oh, from a dynasty perspective, Hill has an amazing 3- and 5-year outlook. I feel great about him if he's my WR1

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

Hill, Hopkins, OBJ, Thomas, and Adams are likely the top-5 dynasty WRs in some order for most owners. I would probably wager that barring injury, Hill will be a WR2 or better in PPR for at least the next 3-4 seasons with Mahomes and Reid.

[grandmabetty]

agree what hill did was despicable. On the other hand, if all of us refused to have players on our team with a criminal record or otherwise mischievous or devious backgrounds I think there would be a struggle to support even an 8 team league.

I own Hill in my league and he's a little inconsistent sometimes but that's just part of his game. He'll get you 40 points one game and 7 points the next. He's definitely a top 5 WR asset. The only way I see that changing in the next 5 years, barring injury, is if Andy Reid gets fired