FWIW it would be illegal for the medical team to share any of that info with the cowboys unless the player specifically signed a release. That seems unlikely though. (not entirely sure if that's what you meant but thought it was worth noting)
That's my guy thus far. Currently in consideration for my early 2nds - if he even lasts that long.
Worth noting that the Cowboys team doctors did his surgery, FYI.
They have more information than anyone else currently on how that looks. If their value meets need on him, he's the natural contender to fly up the draft boards come draft day.
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Players skipping combine drills will become more frequent. It is antiquated in some aspects. The 40 started out as a drill for special teams value. It's not really natural game speed for most. Some players train to get faster for it and then look slower in games. Some players just have bad technique and mess up their times.
Plus, what's the point of non linemen still doing bench press these days?
As tech keeps expanding, there will probably be more ways to make more of these drills useless.
Plus, what's the point of non linemen still doing bench press these days?
As tech keeps expanding, there will probably be more ways to make more of these drills useless.
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Well, I’m very sure you’re wrong about that.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:01 pmYeah I’m not sure Billy has done the research on Wright.KingsKing wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:36 pm6’0 and 210 pounds isn’t smallish at all .Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:55 am
On top of that he doesn’t add much as a receiver, which usually is something smallish backs like him need to have in their toolbox.
I’d wager he doesn’t make it to either 6’-0” or 210 lbs when measurables are taken.
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Why is that?murphysxm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:34 pmMan you have better be right......Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:03 amI’m not sure anyone has any concerns about Williams’ cannon. All he can do is hurt himself if he starts missing receivers by a bunch or his footwork looks atrocious. He plays much better out of system than in it and takes a lot of time to process, and that’s a problem at the next level. He sure doesn’t want to put any emphasis on thatCameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:28 am Caleb Williams isn't throwing at the combine. Harrison isn't testing and supposedly won't do a pro day either
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The gauntlet.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:16 pm One drill I like is the WR cross field catch test (forget what it's called) where the have to run across the width of the field catching left, then right, then left, etc. You get to see who catches with their hands (good) and who catches with their body/chest (bad).
Yeah, I enjoy watching that as well. You can pick up on little things that are subtle. Who can maintain a straight line as opposed to weaving back and forth (spatial awareness), hand position, hand catching under stress, reacting to throws outside their frame while on the run, who runs more slowly while crossing the field (confidence in their hands), maintaining posture across the field.
Fun drill and can expose some real flaws.
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One of the few drills I actually find valuableBronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:14 amThe gauntlet.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:16 pm One drill I like is the WR cross field catch test (forget what it's called) where the have to run across the width of the field catching left, then right, then left, etc. You get to see who catches with their hands (good) and who catches with their body/chest (bad).
Yeah, I enjoy watching that as well. You can pick up on little things that are subtle. Who can maintain a straight line as opposed to weaving back and forth (spatial awareness), hand position, hand catching under stress, reacting to throws outside their frame while on the run, who runs more slowly while crossing the field (confidence in their hands), maintaining posture across the field.
Fun drill and can expose some real flaws.
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Thank you, couldn't remember what it was called.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:14 amThe gauntlet.wickerkat1212 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:16 pm One drill I like is the WR cross field catch test (forget what it's called) where the have to run across the width of the field catching left, then right, then left, etc. You get to see who catches with their hands (good) and who catches with their body/chest (bad).
Yeah, I enjoy watching that as well. You can pick up on little things that are subtle. Who can maintain a straight line as opposed to weaving back and forth (spatial awareness), hand position, hand catching under stress, reacting to throws outside their frame while on the run, who runs more slowly while crossing the field (confidence in their hands), maintaining posture across the field.
Fun drill and can expose some real flaws.
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QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL
D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT
Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI
Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble
Re: 2024 Combine
Read it again and do better next time.Csl312 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:40 pmFWIW it would be illegal for the medical team to share any of that info with the cowboys unless the player specifically signed a release. That seems unlikely though. (not entirely sure if that's what you meant but thought it was worth noting)
That's my guy thus far. Currently in consideration for my early 2nds - if he even lasts that long.
Worth noting that the Cowboys team doctors did his surgery, FYI.
They have more information than anyone else currently on how that looks. If their value meets need on him, he's the natural contender to fly up the draft boards come draft day.
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There's a reason to link Brooks to Dallas. The Cowboys medical staff performed Brooks' surgery in Arlington following the TCU game in November, per Kollmann. Dallas also met with Brooks during the Shrine Bowl events in Frisco earlier this offseason.
"They know him very well," said Kollmann of Dallas' ties to Brooks. "They're also looking for a running back."
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I'd actually prefer if he was 5'10 , I think he gets to 210 or close even if he isn't because of water loading. Even if he is 5'10 and a true 200-202 thats plenty big enough .Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:43 amWell, I’m very sure you’re wrong about that.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:01 pmYeah I’m not sure Billy has done the research on Wright.
I’d wager he doesn’t make it to either 6’-0” or 210 lbs when measurables are taken.
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That is smallish for a NFL RB.KingsKing wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:32 pmI'd actually prefer if he was 5'10 , I think he gets to 210 or close even if he isn't because of water loading. Even if he is 5'10 and a true 200-202 thats plenty big enough .Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:43 amWell, I’m very sure you’re wrong about that.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:01 pm
Yeah I’m not sure Billy has done the research on Wright.
I’d wager he doesn’t make it to either 6’-0” or 210 lbs when measurables are taken.
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Just a lot of checks for you to cash if Caleb succeeds at the level most/many think he willBronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:44 amWhy is that?murphysxm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:34 pmMan you have better be right......Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:03 am
I’m not sure anyone has any concerns about Williams’ cannon. All he can do is hurt himself if he starts missing receivers by a bunch or his footwork looks atrocious. He plays much better out of system than in it and takes a lot of time to process, and that’s a problem at the next level. He sure doesn’t want to put any emphasis on that
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I’ve been wrong before. I’ll take that risk to put my opinions on the table. I’ve also clearly stated that I’m identifying red flags and not dismissing any chance that he’ll succeed at the next level, but there are factors that may affect the extent of his success.
If someone here just feels the unbridled need to do a happy dance and victory lap here because either those red flags didn’t actually exist, were played through, or that he learned to fix them, well I’m okay with being their punching bag if it’s cathartic for them.
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Ooooo goodie! I love figuratively punching a figurative punching bag because my speculation of some athlete's career (with severely limited information) beat your speculation! You know, it just makes a man feel bigger than his peers!Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:36 am If someone here just feels the unbridled need to do a happy dance and victory lap here because either those red flags didn’t actually exist, were played through, or that he learned to fix them, well I’m okay with being their punching bag if it’s cathartic for them.
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Valhalla wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:38 amOoooo goodie! I love figuratively punching a figurative punching bag because my speculation of some athlete's career (with severely limited information) beat your speculation! You know, it just makes a man feel bigger than his peers!Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:36 am If someone here just feels the unbridled need to do a happy dance and victory lap here because either those red flags didn’t actually exist, were played through, or that he learned to fix them, well I’m okay with being their punching bag if it’s cathartic for them.
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Bigger than Gibbs,Cook,Achane,Ekeler to name a few, same size as CMC,Pollard,Etienne etc. Thats plenty big enough to play RB.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:13 amThat is smallish for a NFL RB.KingsKing wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:32 pmI'd actually prefer if he was 5'10 , I think he gets to 210 or close even if he isn't because of water loading. Even if he is 5'10 and a true 200-202 thats plenty big enough .Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:43 am
Well, I’m very sure you’re wrong about that.
I’d wager he doesn’t make it to either 6’-0” or 210 lbs when measurables are taken.
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