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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby BlackOmega » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:02 pm

Vcize wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:12 pm Gase was publicly critical of Ajayi and blamed a lot of the rushing issues on him this week. Seems like Drake is a decent flyer in case they decide to change things up.
Gase was also criticizing everyone but himself for the Dolphins problems so I don't know if I'd read too much into that other than just frustrated venting from a coach who should be looking in the mirror instead of throwing stones at everyone else

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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:17 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:17 pm
JFever wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:18 am Well, yeah but.... ^ That isn't very likely to happen as they have different styles. I am an Ajayi owner in a couple leagues and I also rostered Drake in those leagues up until a few weeks back. He is drop-able in my opinion.
highy disagree hes droppable. up to this point he wasnt rosterable but now he should be added by everyone, ajayi has been flat out awful, they are going to be forced to change things up. 7 straight weeks of misery with only using 1 rb has to make a light bulb go off like "oh wait lets try out Drake and see if things go any better"
Ajayi has actually not been bad at all. Watch the games, he's doing everything he can to get upfield. Constantly churning 2-3 yards out of plays that would be 2 yard losses if Crowell or Javorious Allen were taking the handoff
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby Goddard » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:01 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:06 pm I don't see how Kenyan helps the run game. He's not an RB you can go to for a lot of carries. He's more of a 3rd down back.
This. Even if Ajayi got benched or hurt, I just don't see him being an every down back or having a huge role.

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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby Big Al » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:28 am

kamihamster must have had a vision with this timely question. I was holding Drake on 3 teams where I had room. Here's hoping!

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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:35 am

I think this situation turns into a homeless man's version of the Minny backfield. Drake as the 3rd down guy, Williams as the lead runner.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, J Daniels, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/G WILSON/D ADAMS/DK, Pittman, Flowers, Evans, Pearsoll
KITTLE
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HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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TUA, J Daniels
KAMARA, J Brooks, Monty, Mattison
JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE, Pollard
CHASE/G WILSON/AIYUK/DJM, Nabers, Pittman, Diggs, Polk
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/BREECE, Pollard
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert
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TEAM F - 12T, SF & TEP
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby kamihamster » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:42 am

Big Al wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:28 am kamihamster must have had a vision with this timely question. I was holding Drake on 3 teams where I had room. Here's hoping!
The only vision I had was seeing him have a few carries on the Thursday night blow out. My take on the Ajayi trade: It will be a RBBC on the level of the 2015 Chargers with Woodhead (Drake) and Mehlvin Gordon (Williams). Woodhead was a RB1 that year and Gordon was bad. I may be biased since I own Drake.
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby ninotoreS » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:16 pm

Kenyan Drake has never logged triple-digit carries in a single season going back to high-school, struggles in pass-protection, and nearly all of his good plays are from wheel-routes and designed runs to the edge. There is basically nothing about his profile that suggests he can be a lead-back in the NFL. He is, however, an above-average returner on special-teams... unfortunately for our purposes, this probably hurts more than it helps, as NFL teams are usually disinclined to give RBs that are valued kick/punt returners a heavy load with the first-team offense.

Damien Williams is 220lbs, actually a bit better than Drake as a pass-catcher, and much better as a pass-protector. Neither he nor Drake are any good between the tackles, but Williams is the much bigger back, and at least had some 20-carry games in college. Assuming Miami can ever even get to the goal-line, Williams will probably be the preferred RB in those situations. Miami doesn't have any legitimate short-yardage RBs on their roster, but Williams at his weight-class comes the closest.

Senorise Perry is a 190lbs scatback, and is just as much a non-factor between the tackles as Drake.


If you're gonna make a waiver-bid on one of these guys, I personally recommend Williams. Just know it's probable Miami's rushing-offense continues to be a complete dumpster-fire regardless of which one of these scrubs ends up the 'best' option in Miami.
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby mnpacker » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:23 pm

So, would you try to roster one of the Miami RBs over E. McGuire? I have McGuire on my roster, but both Miami RBs are on the WW.
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:32 pm

mnpacker wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:23 pm So, would you try to roster one of the Miami RBs over E. McGuire? I have McGuire on my roster, but both Miami RBs are on the WW.
YES. Either one, to be honest
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KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/COUSINS, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
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LAPORTA/KELCE/KITTLE
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JJ/DK/GODWIN/K ALLEN, Kirk, J Meyers, Polk, Wandale
KITTLE, Goedert, Higbee
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:42 am

dude was looking like a beast! wish he got all the work, what a night it would have been, prob 100 on the ground, 60 in the air and a td. His stat line as is was pretty decent but man i wish he wasnt splitting with williams
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Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby Pac_Eddy » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:54 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:42 am dude was looking like a beast! wish he got all the work, what a night it would have been, prob 100 on the ground, 60 in the air and a td. His stat line as is was pretty decent but man i wish he wasnt splitting with williams
I thought Damien Williams looked better. He was explosive in the passing game. Drake also lost a fumble.
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby Tennisbuck » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:56 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:54 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:42 am dude was looking like a beast! wish he got all the work, what a night it would have been, prob 100 on the ground, 60 in the air and a td. His stat line as is was pretty decent but man i wish he wasnt splitting with williams
I thought Damien Williams looked better. He was explosive in the passing game. Drake also lost a fumble.
Minus Williams one big TD catch, I thought Drake looked better. I guess it really doesn't matter, both should be only fill in players.
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:56 am

ninotoreS wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:16 pm Kenyan Drake has never logged triple-digit carries in a single season going back to high-school, struggles in pass-protection, and nearly all of his good plays are from wheel-routes and designed runs to the edge. There is basically nothing about his profile that suggests he can be a lead-back in the NFL. He is, however, an above-average returner on special-teams... unfortunately for our purposes, this probably hurts more than it helps, as NFL teams are usually disinclined to give RBs that are valued kick/punt returners a heavy load with the first-team offense.

Damien Williams is 220lbs, actually a bit better than Drake as a pass-catcher, and much better as a pass-protector. Neither he nor Drake are any good between the tackles, but Williams is the much bigger back, and at least had some 20-carry games in college. Assuming Miami can ever even get to the goal-line, Williams will probably be the preferred RB in those situations. Miami doesn't have any legitimate short-yardage RBs on their roster, but Williams at his weight-class comes the closest.

Senorise Perry is a 190lbs scatback, and is just as much a non-factor between the tackles as Drake.


If you're gonna make a waiver-bid on one of these guys, I personally recommend Williams. Just know it's probable Miami's rushing-offense continues to be a complete dumpster-fire regardless of which one of these scrubs ends up the 'best' option in Miami.
^This. Drake is just too small
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:18 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:56 am
ninotoreS wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:16 pm Kenyan Drake has never logged triple-digit carries in a single season going back to high-school, struggles in pass-protection, and nearly all of his good plays are from wheel-routes and designed runs to the edge. There is basically nothing about his profile that suggests he can be a lead-back in the NFL. He is, however, an above-average returner on special-teams... unfortunately for our purposes, this probably hurts more than it helps, as NFL teams are usually disinclined to give RBs that are valued kick/punt returners a heavy load with the first-team offense.

Damien Williams is 220lbs, actually a bit better than Drake as a pass-catcher, and much better as a pass-protector. Neither he nor Drake are any good between the tackles, but Williams is the much bigger back, and at least had some 20-carry games in college. Assuming Miami can ever even get to the goal-line, Williams will probably be the preferred RB in those situations. Miami doesn't have any legitimate short-yardage RBs on their roster, but Williams at his weight-class comes the closest.

Senorise Perry is a 190lbs scatback, and is just as much a non-factor between the tackles as Drake.


If you're gonna make a waiver-bid on one of these guys, I personally recommend Williams. Just know it's probable Miami's rushing-offense continues to be a complete dumpster-fire regardless of which one of these scrubs ends up the 'best' option in Miami.
^This. Drake is just too small
too small for what? he had a much better per carry average and was equally useful an effective in the pass game. he got that one ball punched out but he bounced back strong after that. williams was straight up bad running the ball, anyone who thought williams looked better wasnt watching very closely.
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Re: Kenyan Drake

Postby seahawks506 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:11 am

I don't own either player but I thought Drake outplayed Williams last night. He's nothing special, but I liked his scrappy running style.
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