Black Monday 2024 & Offseason Coaching Changes

[Shoreline Steamers]

Crystal ball: Dan Quinn to WAS, Mike McDonald to SEA.

Was hoping for Johnson as my first choice for the Hawks, but now that's out the window I sure hope your crystal ball is magic Mild! McDonald was my second choice, and while the Quinn to Seattle rumors have obviously been rolling around, that hire just wouldn't excite me.

I think you should be extremely happy with Mike McDonald.

It's no surprise why he and his defensive schemes would be impressive to the SEA front office - look no further than what the Ravens did to Seattle in Week 9 (a 37-3 slobberknocking that sent their season into free-fall)

Considering you're going to be going against Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay for the forseeable future, maybe even decades... it makes perfect sense to grab the guy that bottled both those offenses up last season in big Ravens wins. You should be thrilled.

I'm absolutely thrilled!

I listened to his introductory press conference this morning and McDonald was very impressive. For being 36 (and the youngest head coach in the NFL) he sounded very seasoned, answered the questions as honestly as possible, and it really seems as though he and Schneider are very much on the same page.

Key takeaway (as much as can be gleaned before the guy had even had a tour of the facilities - literally). He's going to evaluate the talent on both sides of the ball and build his schemes around their strengths. Read: flexible, and not locked-into any particular style of play. This has me excited to see how things develop on both sides of the ball this summer. I think the team will have a decidedly different look in 2024.

He mentioned that there would be adversity, and likely some bumps in the road which I appreciated. It will take some time to get guys to flip the switch from the Carroll way to the McDonald way. And he clearly has a vision of how he wants things to run. No word on coordinators yet, but he did say it was literally the first thing he and Schneider were discussing when he arrived in the building. TBD.

I think this is just the type of coach Seattle needs to try and compete with their rivals in the NFC West. Youthful, innovative, but will hold players to account. I loved Pete, but it was getting to the point where he was the old guy at the club still trying to seem current.

Qadry Ismail hosts a show in the Baltimore market, and he was on this morning saying that when you get a coach from the Baltimore organization, guaranteed you're getting someone who's been brought up the right way, and knows how to get the job done. He's a big fan. I hope he's correct, and this turns out to be a Carroll/Tomlin/Belichick type run for McDonald in Seattle.

[mild]

I don't think we have any Raiders fans left around here, right...?

Nope. Can't think of any.

Either way, good news for people who love bad news: per Mike Garafolo...

The #Raiders have locked in on Kliff Kingsbury as their new offensive coordinator. No deal yet but it’s expected to get done. Following a year at USC, the former #AZCardinals head coach returns to the NFL as part of Antonio Pierce’s coaching staff.

How exciting!

[Shoreline Steamers]

I don't think we have any Raiders fans left around here, right...?

Nope. Can't think of any.

Either way, good news for people who love bad news: per Mike Garafolo...

The #Raiders have locked in on Kliff Kingsbury as their new offensive coordinator. No deal yet but it’s expected to get done. Following a year at USC, the former #AZCardinals head coach returns to the NFL as part of Antonio Pierce’s coaching staff.

How exciting!

Yeah, likely not anything that will elicit fist-bumps. But I did think it was interesting that they're also bringing in Marvin Lewis as an "Assistant Head Coach". Not sure how those pieces are going to fit together. But I think Marv could be a decent mentor/shoulder.

[Bronco Billy]

Commanders got Quinn. What a steal!

Not sure who got the worst end of that deal.

[Tvols]

Hired Quinn but didn’t interview varbel odd same kind of coach

[TheTroll]

Hired Quinn but didn’t interview varbel odd same kind of coach

Totally odd

[Anteaters]

Hired Quinn but didn’t interview varbel odd same kind of coach

Quinn is probably a lot less expensive than Vrabel. If the owner/GM don't think the team is heading immediately to contender status, it makes sense to not spend extra money to get the "name" guy.

If Quinn breaks out and looks fantastic, great. If Quinn treads water through a few seasons ping ponging between 7-10 and 11-7, that's also okay, because they can keep him for three years then release him with no/little guaranteed money on his contract at that time.

This was a hire by a team not fooling itself into thinking a big money coach was going to make the team an instant contender. I think this approach signals the new owner is a smart guy. Spend a couple of years instilling a team culture from the top down, weed out the players/staff that don't fit that culture, and bring in players/staff that do. Then, in year three or four, decide if the placeholder head coach is good enough and if not, go get a better head coach.

[Jigga94]

Was hoping for Johnson as my first choice for the Hawks, but now that's out the window I sure hope your crystal ball is magic Mild! McDonald was my second choice, and while the Quinn to Seattle rumors have obviously been rolling around, that hire just wouldn't excite me.

I think you should be extremely happy with Mike McDonald.

It's no surprise why he and his defensive schemes would be impressive to the SEA front office - look no further than what the Ravens did to Seattle in Week 9 (a 37-3 slobberknocking that sent their season into free-fall)

Considering you're going to be going against Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay for the forseeable future, maybe even decades... it makes perfect sense to grab the guy that bottled both those offenses up last season in big Ravens wins. You should be thrilled.

I'm absolutely thrilled!

I listened to his introductory press conference this morning and McDonald was very impressive. For being 36 (and the youngest head coach in the NFL) he sounded very seasoned, answered the questions as honestly as possible, and it really seems as though he and Schneider are very much on the same page.

Key takeaway (as much as can be gleaned before the guy had even had a tour of the facilities - literally). He's going to evaluate the talent on both sides of the ball and build his schemes around their strengths. Read: flexible, and not locked-into any particular style of play. This has me excited to see how things develop on both sides of the ball this summer. I think the team will have a decidedly different look in 2024.

He mentioned that there would be adversity, and likely some bumps in the road which I appreciated. It will take some time to get guys to flip the switch from the Carroll way to the McDonald way. And he clearly has a vision of how he wants things to run. No word on coordinators yet, but he did say it was literally the first thing he and Schneider were discussing when he arrived in the building. TBD.

I think this is just the type of coach Seattle needs to try and compete with their rivals in the NFC West. Youthful, innovative, but will hold players to account. I loved Pete, but it was getting to the point where he was the old guy at the club still trying to seem current.

Qadry Ismail hosts a show in the Baltimore market, and he was on this morning saying that when you get a coach from the Baltimore organization, guaranteed you're getting someone who's been brought up the right way, and knows how to get the job done. He's a big fan. I hope he's correct, and this turns out to be a Carroll/Tomlin/Belichick type run for McDonald in Seattle.

He's going to be great for you guys. Really stings to see him leave, but everyone in the area knew it was going to happen. Feels sort of like Rex Ryan again

[yinzername]

lol Raiders, jeesh. let the players hire the HC then try to prop him up with Kingsbury and Marv...I'll be slamming the under on regular season wins

[Shoreline Steamers]

lol Raiders, jeesh. let the players hire the HC then try to prop him up with Kingsbury and Marv...I'll be slamming the under on regular season wins

I'm not predicting the trio will turn things around in Vegas, though I wouldn't mind it. I guess I'm a fan of seeing failing/underdog franchises turn their fortunes around. It has been such a great story to watch unfold in Detroit the last few years, and I hope they keep things rolling there.

So, the fact that the players were so adamant that the organization give Pierce the job tells me he's a guy that they'll rally behind, They want to work hard for him, want him to keep the job, and are motivated to succeed. Might just be how the guys in Detroit felt about Dan Campbell, even though his coaching acumen is being debated currently.

[bcap88]

Brian Callahan was able to snag his father bill from Cleveland and bring him to Tennessee

First time a son has hired his father

[yinzername]

Brian Callahan was able to snag his father bill from Cleveland and bring him to Tennessee

First time a son has hired his father

this reaslly peels my banana for my Levis stock

[murphysxm]

They traded away all their pass rushers, and are in complete overhaul. It must be a money thing for Quinn and his family. His Dallas gig was a lot better, but maybe he felt unsafe there long term, after Jordan Love shredded his D in the playoffs.

A team with the #2 overall pick in a draft with multiple élite QB prospects, fantastic cap space and a new ownership eager to change the franchise is a bad gig? Not sure I agree on that.

[Tvols]

Hired Quinn but didn’t interview varbel odd same kind of coach

Quinn is probably a lot less expensive than Vrabel. If the owner/GM don't think the team is heading immediately to contender status, it makes sense to not spend extra money to get the "name" guy.

If Quinn breaks out and looks fantastic, great. If Quinn treads water through a few seasons ping ponging between 7-10 and 11-7, that's also okay, because they can keep him for three years then release him with no/little guaranteed money on his contract at that time.

This was a hire by a team not fooling itself into thinking a big money coach was going to make the team an instant contender. I think this approach signals the new owner is a smart guy. Spend a couple of years instilling a team culture from the top down, weed out the players/staff that don't fit that culture, and bring in players/staff that do. Then, in year three or four, decide if the placeholder head coach is good enough and if not, go get a better head coach.

I would think they would want a guy who can nurture and bring along there new young QB. Im not a fan of this hire at all, but its Redskins so meh hope they sink, lol as a Cowboys fan. Quinn is nothing special, he defense was just not good the last half of the season(but wasnt that his MO ever year in Big D).

[mild]

They traded away all their pass rushers, and are in complete overhaul. It must be a money thing for Quinn and his family. His Dallas gig was a lot better, but maybe he felt unsafe there long term, after Jordan Love shredded his D in the playoffs.

A team with the #2 overall pick in a draft with multiple élite QB prospects, fantastic cap space and a new ownership eager to change the franchise is a bad gig? Not sure I agree on that.

I'm with you. Anyone expecting this to be the Snyder-era WFT is already behind the times, Josh Harris is as aggressive and detail-oriented as it gets.

He's going to find the right staff, and he'll be aggressive in doing so.