George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Happy that I traded away Brandon Aiyuk for George Pickens straight up back in July.
Many in the league thought I was crazy, and maybe I am.
Perhaps I could have gotten a 23 3rd back with Pickens for Aiyuk at that time, as Aiyuk's value was higher, but I'm good.
I had seen enough of Pickens in college, and liked the landing spot in Pittsburgh enough to make the move.
I am rebuilding this year anyway, so going from Aiyuk to Pickens I got 3 years younger and the better WR, IMO.
Many in the league thought I was crazy, and maybe I am.
Perhaps I could have gotten a 23 3rd back with Pickens for Aiyuk at that time, as Aiyuk's value was higher, but I'm good.
I had seen enough of Pickens in college, and liked the landing spot in Pittsburgh enough to make the move.
I am rebuilding this year anyway, so going from Aiyuk to Pickens I got 3 years younger and the better WR, IMO.
Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
I'm still amazed at the people who think Diontae will prevent Pickens from being the alpha WR in Pittsburgh. Diontae is good, but the difference between them is large.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:06 pm Happy that I traded away Brandon Aiyuk for George Pickens straight up back in July.
Many in the league thought I was crazy, and maybe I am.
Perhaps I could have gotten a 23 3rd back with Pickens for Aiyuk at that time, as Aiyuk's value was higher, but I'm good.
I had seen enough of Pickens in college, and liked the landing spot in Pittsburgh enough to make the move.
I am rebuilding this year anyway, so going from Aiyuk to Pickens I got 3 years younger and the better WR, IMO.
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QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Pickens is more talented, but Diontae is more skilled. It seems like a 1A/1B thing going forward.Anteaters wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:55 pmI'm still amazed at the people who think Diontae will prevent Pickens from being the alpha WR in Pittsburgh. Diontae is good, but the difference between them is large.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:06 pm Happy that I traded away Brandon Aiyuk for George Pickens straight up back in July.
Many in the league thought I was crazy, and maybe I am.
Perhaps I could have gotten a 23 3rd back with Pickens for Aiyuk at that time, as Aiyuk's value was higher, but I'm good.
I had seen enough of Pickens in college, and liked the landing spot in Pittsburgh enough to make the move.
I am rebuilding this year anyway, so going from Aiyuk to Pickens I got 3 years younger and the better WR, IMO.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
And could very well turn into that if all of the rumors of the Steelers looking to trade away Chase Claypool come true.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:57 pmPickens is more talented, but Diontae is more skilled. It seems like a 1A/1B thing going forward.Anteaters wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:55 pmI'm still amazed at the people who think Diontae will prevent Pickens from being the alpha WR in Pittsburgh. Diontae is good, but the difference between them is large.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:06 pm Happy that I traded away Brandon Aiyuk for George Pickens straight up back in July.
Many in the league thought I was crazy, and maybe I am.
Perhaps I could have gotten a 23 3rd back with Pickens for Aiyuk at that time, as Aiyuk's value was higher, but I'm good.
I had seen enough of Pickens in college, and liked the landing spot in Pittsburgh enough to make the move.
I am rebuilding this year anyway, so going from Aiyuk to Pickens I got 3 years younger and the better WR, IMO.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
I really don't think they trade away Claypool for less than a 2nd round pick + +. He's a solid WR, especially as their #3 WR. If they had the offensive line and seasoned QB to support it, I think they'd be in talks with the Bengals and Dolphins for best top to bottom WR corps in the league. And they still have another year with him on the cheap. If they get a great deal, I can see him moving for sure. But otherwise, it seems unlikely to me. At least this year.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:30 pmAnd could very well turn into that if all of the rumors of the Steelers looking to trade away Chase Claypool come true.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:57 pmPickens is more talented, but Diontae is more skilled. It seems like a 1A/1B thing going forward.
Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
What makes me think Claypool is on the block is his 3rd year status. With Pickett going through growing pains, 2022 is not going to be a win-now season for the Steelers. In 2023, CC will be in his 4th season on his rookie deal and need an expensive extension to keep. With DJ signed to a big deal and Pickens looking at one down the road, I can't imagine Pittsburgh will put itself in the situation of paying three WRs relatively big contracts.dustyroads wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:21 amI really don't think they trade away Claypool for less than a 2nd round pick + +. He's a solid WR, especially as their #3 WR. If they had the offensive line and seasoned QB to support it, I think they'd be in talks with the Bengals and Dolphins for best top to bottom WR corps in the league. And they still have another year with him on the cheap. If they get a great deal, I can see him moving for sure. But otherwise, it seems unlikely to me. At least this year.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:30 pmAnd could very well turn into that if all of the rumors of the Steelers looking to trade away Chase Claypool come true.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:57 pm
Pickens is more talented, but Diontae is more skilled. It seems like a 1A/1B thing going forward.
Assuming one of the three will have to go next year as Pittsburgh aligns itself for runs in '23 and beyond, the traded WR will be either CC or DJ. Pickens is looking like a better pure talent than either, and he'll be the cheapest of the group for a few more seasons.
It will be interesting to follow and make fantasy decision based on what we think will happen.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Wouldn't surprise me if Claypool is moved. If not this year, eyes on whoever the Steelers draft at WR next year
Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Saw an interesting stat that out of all WR with min 40 targets, he is 1 of 3 with no dropped passes (Lockett, Thielen the other two). So far he has been solid.
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TE:T.J. Hockenson, Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson
Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Except today.
I didn't see any of today's Pittsburgh game, so I don't know if he went 0fer because Pickett was out of it, or if it was because Pickens was just bad.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
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14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
The Eagles have a fantastic secondary. They've shut down great WRs all season. Even tougher for Pickens when he's relying on Pickett.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Yeah, once they get the rookie QB in there it'll tick up for Pickens for su...
-wait, I'm being told this is in fact the future QB in Pittsburgh for the foreseeable future?
Well, damn. Perhaps he will improve so that Pickens can rely on him.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Pickens and Pickett have had a great connection statistically so far this season. Eagles do have one of the best secondaries in the league, so it's possible Slay and the crew just dominated.
Still weird though that you can't find a way to get Pickens involved.
Still weird though that you can't find a way to get Pickens involved.
Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
I mean We all know this is how it is with rookies, they are inconsistent, so I’m not surprised when they put up dud games, I just want to see the flashes and we have seen that with Pickens. Rookie inconsistency is why teams with all rookies will never win anything in dynasty. The only consistent rookie WR this year has been Olave and I think pickens ceiling is higher than Olave. Pickens will have a great game again, then disappear again. That’s just how it is with most of them. But if I had pickens I’d certainly be very excited
Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Everyone so wants Pickens, the 64th best PPG WR, to be great it is almost comical.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:53 pm Pickens and Pickett have had a great connection statistically so far this season. Eagles do have one of the best secondaries in the league, so it's possible Slay and the crew just dominated.
Still weird though that you can't find a way to get Pickens involved.
My take is he has a chance to breakout year 3 once the Steelers get some better overall talent on their roster.
Today he is isn't even start worthy. He does flash talent but he has much learning in front of him.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?
Wondering how much Claypool's removal will boost Pickens?
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12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
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