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Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:54 pm
by BabyChark23
So, I’m guessing we can pretty much ignore S2 scores going forward?

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:40 am
by CGW
BabyChark23 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:54 pm So, I’m guessing we can pretty much ignore S2 scores going forward?
Didn't we always?

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:14 pm
by BabyChark23
CGW wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:40 am
BabyChark23 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:54 pm So, I’m guessing we can pretty much ignore S2 scores going forward?
Didn't we always?
There’s been a lot of talk about it the past couple years and whether or not it should factor into evaluations.

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:20 pm
by SteveMaddensShoes
BabyChark23 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 1:14 pm
CGW wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:40 am
BabyChark23 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:54 pm So, I’m guessing we can pretty much ignore S2 scores going forward?
Didn't we always?
There’s been a lot of talk about it the past couple years and whether or not it should factor into evaluations.
I certainly over valued it between Bryce and CJ. I didn’t count it as a Bryce will be good but more of a weed out slow processing speeds. Apparently I was completely wrong

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:15 pm
by JoeJoe88
Stroud is playing unbelievable football. The future is so bright for this kid.

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:00 pm
by Anteaters
JoeJoe88 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:15 pmStroud is playing unbelievable football. The future is so bright for this kid.
Just saw something else that shows another level of how what he's doing is so phenomenal. That he's doing it as a rookie is mind-boggling.

Per ESPN
Only QBs to lead the NFL in pass yards per game and TD-INT ratio through the first 10 weeks of a season since the 1970 merger:

('23) C.J. Stroud
('19) Patrick Mahomes
('15) Tom Brady
('13) Peyton Manning
:crazy:

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:28 pm
by ButtFumbleCity
Anteaters wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:00 pm
Just saw something else that shows another level of how what he's doing is so phenomenal. That he's doing it as a rookie is mind-boggling.

:crazy:
Yeah but those guys didn't run the ball much so they probably weren't any good for fantasy 8-)

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:59 am
by Jigga94
The TD to Dell was a thing of beauty. More like CJ Stroud and Dimes.

That sack that he took a minute to get up from was also Roughing the Passer, but wasn't called. I thought the NFL wanted to protect their best QBs... I wonder what makes Stroud different. Then he comes back and rips a pass on 3rd and 17 for a 1st. Stud

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:56 am
by gpaok
Jigga94 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:59 am The TD to Dell was a thing of beauty. More like CJ Stroud and Dimes.

That sack that he took a minute to get up from was also Roughing the Passer, but wasn't called. I thought the NFL wanted to protect their best QBs... I wonder what makes Stroud different. Then he comes back and rips a pass on 3rd and 17 for a 1st. Stud
Little surprised on how fast he stepped up, but he seems like a top 5 QB at this point and not talking only in Dynasty!

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:13 am
by Anteaters
gpaok wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:56 am
Jigga94 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:59 am The TD to Dell was a thing of beauty. More like CJ Stroud and Dimes.

That sack that he took a minute to get up from was also Roughing the Passer, but wasn't called. I thought the NFL wanted to protect their best QBs... I wonder what makes Stroud different. Then he comes back and rips a pass on 3rd and 17 for a 1st. Stud
Little surprised on how fast he stepped up, but he seems like a top 5 QB at this point and not talking only in Dynasty!
One of my friends called me Saturday and asked if, for week 11, he should start CJS over Mahomes in 1QB. At first I was like :shock: :nono: but then I thought about it and I was like :think: .

It wasn't that I felt he should bench Mahomes, but the fact I needed to even think about it shows just how good CJS has been this year.

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:03 pm
by frerichs5
I’ll start by saying I think Stroud has been great this year, way better than I thought he would coming out. Personally I’d have him in the 6-8 range for dynasty rankings.

That said, you’d think he’s lighting the world on fire when in reality he’s been a backend QB1 (which is great for a rookie in my opinion). Here’s his fantasy finishes by week:

22, 13, 12, 10, 17, 12, Bye, 23, 1, 9, 12 (pending MNF)

I think we’re going a little overboard (current season start/sit) if we are considering starting him over the elite guys.

Dynasty…absolutely. Love how he looks right now.

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:05 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
BabyChark23 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:54 pm So, I’m guessing we can pretty much ignore S2 scores going forward?
Is S2 the new 10-yard dash?

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:07 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
frerichs5 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:03 pm I’ll start by saying I think Stroud has been great this year, way better than I thought he would coming out. Personally I’d have him in the 6-8 range for dynasty rankings.

That said, you’d think he’s lighting the world on fire when in reality he’s been a backend QB1 (which is great for a rookie in my opinion). Here’s his fantasy finishes by week:

22, 13, 12, 10, 17, 12, Bye, 23, 1, 9, 12 (pending MNF)

I think we’re going a little overboard (current season start/sit) if we are considering starting him over the elite guys.

Dynasty…absolutely. Love how he looks right now.
Who cares about his weekly finishes, he’s 6th in QB points per game right now.

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:38 pm
by frerichs5
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:07 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:03 pm I’ll start by saying I think Stroud has been great this year, way better than I thought he would coming out. Personally I’d have him in the 6-8 range for dynasty rankings.

That said, you’d think he’s lighting the world on fire when in reality he’s been a backend QB1 (which is great for a rookie in my opinion). Here’s his fantasy finishes by week:

22, 13, 12, 10, 17, 12, Bye, 23, 1, 9, 12 (pending MNF)

I think we’re going a little overboard (current season start/sit) if we are considering starting him over the elite guys.

Dynasty…absolutely. Love how he looks right now.
Who cares about his weekly finishes, he’s 6th in QB points per game right now.
I mean, if I’m looking at a weekly lineup…I do. Consistency means nothing? Congrats on one week getting him up to QB6 ppg I guess?

For fun, QBs without their best week:

Hurts 23.15
Herbert 20.62
Allen 20.24
Purdy 18.54
Tua 18.10
Mahomes 18.08
Howell 18.04
Prescott 17.93
Lamar 17.82
Stroud 17.13

I’m not trying to crap on Stroud. Like I said, I think he’s been great. Just saying I’m not considering starting him over the other elite options at this point (start/sit this year) as the previous couple posts indicated. If you are, nothing wrong with that.

Re: CJ Stroud & Coin Flips

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:35 pm
by Jigga94
frerichs5 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:38 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:07 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:03 pm I’ll start by saying I think Stroud has been great this year, way better than I thought he would coming out. Personally I’d have him in the 6-8 range for dynasty rankings.

That said, you’d think he’s lighting the world on fire when in reality he’s been a backend QB1 (which is great for a rookie in my opinion). Here’s his fantasy finishes by week:

22, 13, 12, 10, 17, 12, Bye, 23, 1, 9, 12 (pending MNF)

I think we’re going a little overboard (current season start/sit) if we are considering starting him over the elite guys.

Dynasty…absolutely. Love how he looks right now.
Who cares about his weekly finishes, he’s 6th in QB points per game right now.
I mean, if I’m looking at a weekly lineup…I do. Consistency means nothing? Congrats on one week getting him up to QB6 ppg I guess?

For fun, QBs without their best week:

Hurts 23.15
Herbert 20.62
Allen 20.24
Purdy 18.54
Tua 18.10
Mahomes 18.08
Howell 18.04
Prescott 17.93
Lamar 17.82
Stroud 17.13

I’m not trying to crap on Stroud. Like I said, I think he’s been great. Just saying I’m not considering starting him over the other elite options at this point (start/sit this year) as the previous couple posts indicated. If you are, nothing wrong with that.
Kind of ironic this was originally about CJ Stroud vs Mahomes being close enough to consider it and they are less than 1 point apart above lol