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The top 4...

Postby vtguy88 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:54 pm

Amari Cooper, Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon, Kevin White

What order do YOU rank them, and why?
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Re: The top 4...

Postby Hottoddies » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:02 pm

1. Gurley
2. Cooper
3. White
(Parker)
5. Gordon

Gurley seems to be a generational talent. Cooper and White should be solid prospects. Gordon will be situation dependent.
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Re: The top 4...

Postby Coogan Football » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:08 pm

Cooper, Gordon, Parker, Gurley, White.

Amari is well polished, has been coached up already in college by some of the best and exceled against elite opponents. I'd have Gurley higher if he was proven healthy (obviously).

I'm not buying the one year wonder with White.
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Re: The top 4...

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:12 pm

I'm really not on the "generational talent" boat with Gurley. Good, but over rated. I've never even seen him make a spin move, ever. Surely a generational talent could make a spin move? AP, that was a generational talent. Gurley isn't close to that good.

1. Cooper
2. White
3. Gordon
4 Gurley

Gurley can't even stay on the football field, so I have him ranked lowest. He is talented, but I don't see him being able to carry the load. Never carried over 30 times in a game, only carried more than 165 times once in 3 seasons. Hasn't shown the ability to be a workhorse over a sustained period of time. I see Gurley being a Steven Jackson type player, but probably missing more time. Good power back with speed, but not a generational talent at all.

Gordon does nothing but produce. Lead back, can carry the load. Great quickness and initial burst, good power as well. Certainly not situationally dependent in my eyes.

White is a physical receiver with a mean streak, but needs to polish his game.

Cooper is the most pro ready, and probably the safest pick out of all of them.

I have the receivers 1 and 2 based on PPR scoring, and longevity at the position.
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Re: The top 4...

Postby FiremanEd » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:16 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:I'm really not on the "generational talent" boat with Gurley. Good, but over rated. I've never even seen him make a spin move, ever. Surely a generational talent could make a spin move? AP, that was a generational talent. Gurley isn't close to that good.

1. Cooper
2. White
3. Gordon
4 Gurley

Gurley can't even stay on the football field, so I have him ranked lowest. He is talented, but I don't see him being able to carry the load. Never carried over 30 times in a game, only carried more than 165 times once in 3 seasons. Hasn't shown the ability to be a workhorse over a sustained period of time. I see Gurley being a Steven Jackson type player, but probably missing more time. Good power back with speed, but not a generational talent at all.

Gordon does nothing but produce. Lead back, can carry the load. Great quickness and initial burst, good power as well. Certainly not situationally dependent in my eyes.

White is a physical receiver with a mean streak, but needs to polish his game.

Cooper is the most pro ready, and probably the safest pick out of all of them.
I second this. I'm not into the Gurley is a generational talent thing. I don't see elite RB attributes except his measurables. He also has injury history. I'll take him if he falls, but no chance over Cooper, and not over White (who I think has equal measurables for his position and more positional talent), or Gordon (draft location dependent) who I'm more comfortable with as a RB talent. I'd probably put Winston above him too, although I understand him being lower in a 1QB league.

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Re: The top 4...

Postby rock-hammerson » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:20 pm

My top 4 are:
1. Kevin White
2. Todd Gurley
3. Amari Cooper
4. Melvin Gordon

Every time I watch Whites film I get more and more excited. Kids going to be good. I think he's cut from the same mold as Julio.
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Re: The top 4...

Postby bigchiefbc » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:20 pm

Gurley
Cooper
Gordon
Parker
White

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Re: The top 4...

Postby Coogan Football » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:22 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:I'm really not on the "generational talent" boat with Gurley. Good, but over rated. I've never even seen him make a spin move, ever. Surely a generational talent could make a spin move? AP, that was a generational talent. Gurley isn't close to that good.

1. Cooper
2. White
3. Gordon
4 Gurley

Gurley can't even stay on the football field, so I have him ranked lowest. He is talented, but I don't see him being able to carry the load. Never carried over 30 times in a game, only carried more than 165 times once in 3 seasons. Hasn't shown the ability to be a workhorse over a sustained period of time. I see Gurley being a Steven Jackson type player, but probably missing more time. Good power back with speed, but not a generational talent at all.

Gordon does nothing but produce. Lead back, can carry the load. Great quickness and initial burst, good power as well. Certainly not situationally dependent in my eyes.

White is a physical receiver with a mean streak, but needs to polish his game.

Cooper is the most pro ready, and probably the safest pick out of all of them.

I have the receivers 1 and 2 based on PPR scoring, and longevity at the position.

I pretty much agree 100%
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Re: The top 4...

Postby guyatwork37 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:35 pm

Cooper
Gurley
White
Gordon

Cooper and Gurley are simply studs, but I will side with the position of longevity. White and Gordon are also beastly, but same argument applies to these two.

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Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:04 pm

Gurley
Cooper
White
Gordon

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Re: The top 4...

Postby joeday » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:04 pm

Trade back from 1.1 to 1.4 lol.
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Re: The top 4...

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:37 pm

One thing I don't like about White (or rather the WV offence) is that he ALWAYS lines up on the right side. I can't find any film of him playing on the left side of the field.
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Re: The top 4...

Postby Defender » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:55 pm

White - everything you want to see in a WR
Gurley - talented, but not a generational talent (if I remember correctly, TRich was supposed to be a generational talent...)
Cooper - high floor, should be great
Gordon - might have been drafted first in most rookie draft if he declared a year sooner, but he'll still make a solid starter
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Re: The top 4...

Postby Lssd2012 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:00 pm

Gordon
Gurley
Cooper
White

Given the scarcity of RBs, I have Gordon and Gurley going 1 and 2. I have Cooper>White since White is more of an athlete than a route runner (specifically, does not run crisp routes) and I have Gordon>Gurley because, although they are both freaks, Gordon has better vision, big-play ability and durability.

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Re: The top 4...

Postby Patmos » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:41 am

FantasyFreak wrote:One thing I don't like about White (or rather the WV offence) is that he ALWAYS lines up on the right side. I can't find any film of him playing on the left side of the field.
I wouldn't let that bother me. As a point of reference, Marvin Harrison (right) and Reggie Wayne (left) always lined up on the same side of the field.
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