Pick a side.
A: Demarcus Ware & Navarro Bowman
or
B: JJ Watt & D'Qwell Jackson
D'Qwell can be swapped with either Jo-lonn Dunbar or Lawrence Timmons
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Bowman or Watt?
Re: Bowman or Watt?
JJ Watt and DQwell Jackson.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?
Im going to say Ware and Bowman
Ware will be a much better DL scorer than he was at LB, his numbers at LB were decent but not start-able in most leagues but being that he is now a DL, heck yeah! Jackson is moving from a 4-3 Def to a 3-4 where he will have Robertson stealing tackles from him, so I see the gap from Ware to Watt about 40 points but the gap from Bowman to Jackson more than that...plus Jackson isn't the picture of good health and he is getting up in age.
Ware will be a much better DL scorer than he was at LB, his numbers at LB were decent but not start-able in most leagues but being that he is now a DL, heck yeah! Jackson is moving from a 4-3 Def to a 3-4 where he will have Robertson stealing tackles from him, so I see the gap from Ware to Watt about 40 points but the gap from Bowman to Jackson more than that...plus Jackson isn't the picture of good health and he is getting up in age.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?
I too will go with Ware and Bowman. Not down on Jackson like boobam, but I prefer a high end LB1 and a low end DL1 over a high end DL1 and a low end LB2.boobam13 wrote:Im going to say Ware and Bowman
Ware will be a much better DL scorer than he was at LB, his numbers at LB were decent but not start-able in most leagues but being that he is now a DL, heck yeah! Jackson is moving from a 4-3 Def to a 3-4 where he will have Robertson stealing tackles from him, so I see the gap from Ware to Watt about 40 points but the gap from Bowman to Jackson more than that...plus Jackson isn't the picture of good health and he is getting up in age.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?
Jackson is up there in age? He's about to turn 30 and Ware is about to turn 31. What about Ware's age? LBs are much easier to find than stud DLs like Watt. Watt can last you years and diamond in the rough LBs come out of nowhere every year.boobam13 wrote:Im going to say Ware and Bowman
Ware will be a much better DL scorer than he was at LB, his numbers at LB were decent but not start-able in most leagues but being that he is now a DL, heck yeah! Jackson is moving from a 4-3 Def to a 3-4 where he will have Robertson stealing tackles from him, so I see the gap from Ware to Watt about 40 points but the gap from Bowman to Jackson more than that...plus Jackson isn't the picture of good health and he is getting up in age.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?
I have to grab Watt. The guy produced out of this world last year and is still super young. I would have to take him. Jackson is solid as well, and I need to see Ware with his hand on the ground...
Re: Bowman or Watt?
Ware & Bowman for me as well.
Ware can be a beast while being scored as a DE. Ware basically played a wide nine DE in the previous 3-4 defense and I thought he had his hand on the ground a lot.
Ware can be a beast while being scored as a DE. Ware basically played a wide nine DE in the previous 3-4 defense and I thought he had his hand on the ground a lot.
Re: Bowman or Watt?
The thing about DL is every year you have a new stud, go back into your league scoring and see who the top scorers are at that position...you'll see names like allen, tuck, jpp, watt, etc...teams have an offseason to plan for these guys, between than and def scheme changes the turn over for DL is huge. Ill take the top 5 LB anyday
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Re: Bowman or Watt?
It's more evenly matched than I thought it would be. Let me as you this: If your current LB core consisted of- Kuechly, Washington, Bowman, McCarthy, & M.Kendricks, would you trade away Bowman & Ware to get Watt & Jackson? or Watt & Timmons? or Watt & Dunbar? I have to start 2LB & can flex 1. Having Kuechly & Washington doesn't make Bowman expendable, but it doesn't hurt me as much to send one of the big 3 packing if I can bring in a guy like Watt.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?
In this instance, I would switch from my vacuum pick of Bowman and Ware to a pick of Watt and Jackson.bjorklunde wrote:It's more evenly matched than I thought it would be. Let me as you this: If your current LB core consisted of- Kuechly, Washington, Bowman, McCarthy, & M.Kendricks, would you trade away Bowman & Ware to get Watt & Jackson? or Watt & Timmons? or Watt & Dunbar? I have to start 2LB & can flex 1. Having Kuechly & Washington doesn't make Bowman expendable, but it doesn't hurt me as much to send one of the big 3 packing if I can bring in a guy like Watt.
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Re: Bowman or Watt?
Watt > Ware, Jackson and Bowman. Watt is to DL what Graham is to TE. They are young and elite at their position
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Re: Bowman or Watt?
I'd take Watt and Jackson by a mile.
We don't know what Ware will do with his hand in the dirt yet. Jackson is very serviceable as a low end LB1 and even if Watt produces half of what he did last year, he's still in the cream of the crop at DL and much younger.
Do you miss on an elite LB? Sure, but a premium DL the quality of Watt is extremely rare to come by. The point dropoff is MUCH bigger with linemen than linebackers.
We don't know what Ware will do with his hand in the dirt yet. Jackson is very serviceable as a low end LB1 and even if Watt produces half of what he did last year, he's still in the cream of the crop at DL and much younger.
Do you miss on an elite LB? Sure, but a premium DL the quality of Watt is extremely rare to come by. The point dropoff is MUCH bigger with linemen than linebackers.
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