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Postby Scorp » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:58 pm

This is about as deep as I care to go.

1. Trent Richardson, Cleveland RB Round 1
I see no reason why Richardson can't rush for 1,100 yards as a rookie. He is an excellent receiver, so 25+ receptions for 200-250 yards is very doable even as a rook. Also, I'd be shocked if he doesn't score over 6-7 times in 2012. If he stays healthy in 2012, he will likely be a first-round pick in all fantasy formats heading into his second NFL season.
2. Doug Martin, Bucs RB Round 1
I really don't think the Bucs needed an RB, they needed defensive ends and a backfield. Blount's one of the best at avoiding tacklers and making people miss. Martin could be the next Ray Rice/Michael Turner, but I think Mikel Leshoure is possible as well.
3. Andrew Luck, Colts QB Round 1
Projected to be the next Peyton Manning 2.0; Luck's got some big shoes to fill. The schedule is filled with opposing QB's like Locker, Gabbert, Ponder, Garrard, Weeden, Fitzpatrick and Cassell. Dynasty owners still need to be patient as the Colts rebuild.
4. RGIII, Skins QB Round 1
Bigger or smaller than Cam Newton, he plays like him. The Shanahan era begins in '12 with the Redskins as they begin to run their trick plays and become a little more improved in 2012. They still lack the typical NFC East offense that the Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants have but they're working on it just like the Panthers in the NFC South.
5. Blackmon, Jags WR Round 1
I was really excited when the Jags got Laurent Robinson from the Cowboys. Blackmon's going to prove whether or not Gabbert's a bust. He's in the best situation possible with very little ahead of him on the depth chart and may come out a little better than Bryant and Crabtree from recent rookie drafts.
6. Micheal Floyd, Cardinals WR Round 1
Working with probowl receiver Larry Fitzgerald has it's perks, and Floyd's in the ideal situation to learn from today's best at the home run hitter. Early Doucet and Andre Roberts flash at times, but finding a true No. 2 to play across from Larry Fitzgerald will amp up the passing game. I typically shy away from Notre Dame players
but Floyd's got the look of Bills wideout Stevie Johnson at the very least.
7. David Wilson, Giants RB Round 1
Mayock's take: "People talk about how quick and fast Wilson is, but he's so explosive north and south. He doesn't just try to make you miss laterally. This is a football player. And if you go to New York to play for Tom Coughlin, you better be nothing less. I love what the Giants are able to do with runningbacks. Even the ones that don't make the roster usually end up producing extremely well in another system.
8. Kendall Wright, Titans WR Round 1
He's either a Burress or a Titus Young, and the latter is more likely while Kenny Britt's on the field.
9. Stephon Hill, Jets WR Round 2
Demaryius Thomas also just came out of that offense and has adjusted nicely. With the loss of Plexico Burress I think this kid can make a difference in that offense. He may be limited as the merry go round circles around Tebow and Sanchez, but at 6-4" he could be a great goal line receiver.
10. Fleener, Colts TE Round 2
Indy took not one but two TEs, and they took the two best. The Fleener pick was no surprise. Fleener and Luck were teammates at Stanford and this should not only give Luck’s stock a little boost, but don’t be surprised to see Fleener start going in the 1st round of rookie drafts in a week or two.
11. Tannehill, Dolphins QB Round 1
It appears that the Miami Dolphins are desperate for a QB, after losing out on the Peyton Manning and Matt Flynn sweepstakes. This year could become known as the year of the quarterback, so Tannehill's got some potential that shouldn't be taken lightly for those looking to fill the position.
12. Nick Toon, Saints WR (to replace Meachem) Round 4
Toon is an extremely safe pick, a reliable no.2 receiver for a decade. What's not to love about another target for Drew Brees? Actually a 2nd round pick considering the Saints traded away a ton of picks to move up and aqcuire RB Mark Ingram last season.
13. Luke Kuechly, Panthers ILB Round 1
The Panthers lost their third-leading tackler in linebacker Dan Connor to Dallas as a free agent. The team hopes Thomas Davis can stay healthy this year (he played just two games in 2011), but Kuechly should start immediately at the MLB spot as Beason and Davis get pushed to the WLB position.
14. Lamarr Miller, Dolphins Round 4
If you still believe in Reggie Bush you're deceiving yourself. The Dolphins are going to need playmakers in 2012 after the loss of Brandon Marshall and the signing of
David Garrard. Miller is one of the fastest players in this draft class and has the ideal weight to keep backs fresh in an RBBC. Big play threat.
15. LaMicheal James, SFO RB Round 2
It's tough not getting excited about James, but he is quite small at 5-foot-9, 194 pounds. It's easy to think "Darren Sproles" when you watch him play, but with Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter and Brandon Jacobs all on the roster, James is going to have a tough time getting carries this year.
Don't expect a whole lot of touches early on in 2012.
16. Reuben Randle, Giants WR (to replace Manningham) Round 2
Randle is primarily a posession receiver, but he does have some big-play ability in his game. A borderline #1 receiver, he'll fill the role vacated by Manningham well. Eli Manning will still use Victor Cruz in the ultimate fashion as WR's Rueben Randle, Ramses Barden, Jerrel Jernigan, and Domenik Hixon are expected to compete for the No. 3 wide receiver job during training camp.

17. Brandon Weeden, Browns QB Round 1
It's no wonder the Browns need a quarterback, but instead of fixing the problem, they're putting a band-aid on it. They lost safety Mike Adams to free agency, and didn't even attempt to upgrade during the draft. Unless they sign FA Yeremiah Bell, they'll be playing from behind all year, and don't count on a few 1st round weapons to change it. This pick is nothing more than a desperation pick for dynasty owners as well if you're in need to fill the position, I mean 29 yr. old rookies can't have that much value.
18. Mohamed Sanu, Bengals WR Round 3
Sanu should start immediately and help relieve some pressure off of A.J. Green. Dalton hasn't even come close to peaking yet, and as the Bengals struggle to find their own version of Mendenhall and Richardson, they'll be tossing the rock.
19. Mark Barron, Bucs DB Round 1
He's a big in the box type of safety that should help in run support that is somewhat lacking from MLB Mason Foster. The Bucs face some of the best rushing and passing offenses in the NFC South, grabbing a safety like this looks even better than KC's Eric Berry.
20. A.J. Jenkins, 49er's WR (buried on depth) Round 1 developmental
Looks like a reach as the Rams were likely going to trade up to get him. Jenkins should eventually fill a no.2 role on the 49er's offense once the contract expires on Randy Moss. I expect Manningham to hit the slot with Moss and Crabtree out wide. There's some upside here for Crabtree in the slot depending on the scheme.
21. Ronnie Hillman, Broncos RB Round 3
He could be a nice change of pace back, but he won't gain yards on an every-down basis. He's dangerous in space and will be utilized in the screen game, but his skills as a blocker have much to be desired.
22. Quick, STL WR (buried on depth chart) Round 2
His production could be a little delayed, but he will be fast-tracked by the Rams' coaching staff. ... This is a guy they're going to need production from right away. He's buried deep on the depth chart however, and will have to compete against veterans Steve Smith and Danny Amendola for playing time.
23. Alshon Jeffery, Chicago WR Round 2
He's a long shot behind Brandon Marshall and Johnny Knox, but if he works hard and doesn't get lazy, he'll be a nice receiver in a few years. I consider him a developmental project behind Earl Bennett who'll get a chance to score a few times this season.
24. Chandler Jones, Patriots DE Round 1
Bill usually trades down, but this year they traded up to get a versitile player to play at both the DE, and OLB spots. This is usually great for fantasy owners as you get more tackles out of your defensivelineman. Jones is eventually expected to settle into the "elephant" pass-rushing role, which will call on him to play as a stand-up defensive end who can also drop back into coverage.
25. Harrison Smith, Vikings FS Round 1
The guy he's replacing only managed 46 tackles but with Ponder, and a few missed games from Peterson, it'll be a whole new ball game for productivity.
26. Lavonte David, Bucs OLB Round 2
David is a small but rangy tweener who'll fill in nicely for the Bucs. He thrives in coverage, is instintive in zone, and capable of running with tightends.
27. Morris Claiborne, Cowboys CB Round 1
If you're in a return yardage league and looking for the next Patrick Peterson, go after this guy. The Cowboys have to secure the punt and kick return position with Felix Jones made of glass. Rookie corners get picked on the most, so you'll get atleast one good year out of him before teams start avoiding him like Revis.
28. Iseah Pead, Rams RB Round 2
Whenever you see a back picked in the 2nd round, it's a noticeable thing however he may be nothing more than the next 49er Dixon or Coffee due to Steven Jackson's ability to not play nice with committee backs. High risk, high reward player that someone in your draft will reach for.
29. Tommy Streeter, Ravens WR Round 6
The Ravens add another long strider to go along with last years selection of Torrey Smith. He's a flier and will be a great risk in the 3rd round of fantasy drafts. He could develop into that no.1 receiver that the Ravens so desperately lack.
30. Robert Turbin, Seahawks RB Round 4
Turbin is a big, physical running back capable of spelling Marshawn Lynch in short-yardage situations. He will compete for playing time as a four-minute running back. He was ranked as high as no.5 for me pre-draft, and has the intangibles to succeed in the NFL.
31. Courtney Upshaw, Ravens OLB Round 1
Losing long-time starter Jarret Johnson opens up spots for young players like Paul Kruger and Sergio Kindle, but Upshaw's got the nod from the draft and should produce immediately.
32. Brock Osweiler, Denver QB Round 2
A giant at 6’8″, Owseiler is now in the perfect situation. He knows that he is officially a backup until Peyton moves on or gets injured. He also now has the best teacher in the game today showing him the ropes.


33. Andre Branch, Jags DE Round 2
Due to Kampmann's knee surgery's and salary, Branch may get an opportunity to showcase his skills soon. Branch is a one-dimensional situational type pass rusher, but he has long arms and the speed to turn the corner.
34. Ryan Broyles, Lions WR Round 2
This was one of the drafts most surprising picks because the Lions already have a Titus Young on the roster. I can only think of the potential 3 receiver sets to boost his value.
35. Ty Hilton, Colts WR Round 3
Anytime I see a receiver with kick return abilities I see a potential starter. The Colts lost Garcon to the Redskins, and Hilton could be next in line to fill a big role on a rebuilding offense. Worth a 2nd round pick imo.
36. Michael Engew, Dolphins TE Round 3
Miami hasn’t had a big-time TE for quite some time. He's got some speed that linebackers will have trouble keeping up with. He's a competitor when asked to block and rated about equal to TE's Allen and Fleener. Worth a shot as my gut tells me the Dolphins may struggle this season.
37. Dan Herron, Bengals RB Round 6
He's not a game changer, but he'll fit into a number of schemes and stay on the field on 3rd downs. He should be a quality no. 2 back.
38. Dwayne Allen, Colts TE Round 3
He's one of the best all around TE's in this draft class, and should secure atleast a part-time role.
39. Bernard Pierce, Ravens RB Round 3
Pierce isn't going to help much in the passing game which will probably keep him out on 3rd downs. A change of pace back when Rice gets winded.
40. Blair Walsh, Vikings PK Round 5
Walsh is a consistent placekicker who will be given the opportunity to battle for the starting job. He excels at putting the ball through the end zone on kickoffs and has a chance to unseat a veteran for a big role on the team.
41. Jarius Wright, Vikings Round 4
I like this guy for PPR better than Percy. Wright is a quick twitch slippery receiver with great instincts and a refined approach. He's really small but he's adept at separating from defenders out of breaks, and should produce immediately.
42. Bobby Wagner, Seattle WLB Round 2
He'll be playing in the position vacated by David Hawthorne, but he probably won't get the same type of stats. I'm thinking worse than Aaron Curry, but it's a position that can work out.
43. Devon Wylie, Chiefs WR Round 4
Wylie's speed and quickness can't be ignored, and he has the kind of versatility that will make him useful in multiple phases of the game. Could take over for Breaston.
44. T.J. Graham, Bills WR Round 3
Graham was a major reach for the Bills, and he reminds a lot of former Bill Roscoe Parrish. A smallish slot receiver, Graham uses his speed and athleticism to make plays in the open field. His best value for the Bills may be in the special teams return game.
45. Ladarius Green, Chargers TE Round 4
Green should be an effective situational weapon, and could eventually fill the role that Gates can't seem to stay healthy for.
46. Nick Foles, Eagles QB Round 3
Foles may be the rookie back-up you want to own just because he will probably have the best chance of seeing the field next year. Not because Vick isn’t a stud, but because Vick tends to get beat up pretty good every year. Foles is the anti-Vick in terms of athleticism He is a pocket passer with a huge arm. Reid has a good history of developing QBs, we will see if he can do it again.
47. Mychal Kendricks, Eagles SLB Round 2
Trading for middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans filled their biggest need on defense, and adding one of the best DT's in the draft in Fletcher Cox will help keep Ryans and the team's other linebackers clean. Kendricks is a straight line athlete who's a liability in coverage, and there's not much upside playing behind Trent Cole.
48. Adrian Robinson, Giants TE Round 5
The Giants didn't add a lot to the offense via free agency, however, they signed Bennett away from Dallas to bolster their tight end group. Robinson fills an obvious need for the Giants, given the ACL injuries to Jake Ballard and Travis Beckum that threaten to keep them out of the lineup for the regular season. If Robinson can acclimate quickly to the pro game, he could see significant minutes as a No. 2 tight end.

49. Zach Brown, Titans WLB Round 2
He covers like a defensive back, a boom or bust WILL has good range but struggles at the point of contact. He'll compete with Will Witherspoon for playing time.
50. Marvin Jones, Bengals WR Round 5
Athletically, he's normal and could stick in the league as a third or fourth option. If you miss your target of Sanu, Jones could be your guy. Jones is a polished route runner with outstanding ball skills and he could surpass some of the Bengals' veterans as a possible No. 3 receiver.
51. Bruce Irvin, Seahawks RDE Round 1
The Seahawks took West Virginia pass rush specialist Bruce Irvin with their first-round pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. Irvin has pretty much been a pass rusher for his entire collegiate career, and will compete for playing time against Red Bryant. Expect a modest amount of sacks from Irvin and not a whole lot else.
52. Melvin Ingram, Chargers, DE Round 1
Ingram is a bookend DE that will wreak havoc on the AFC West from Day 1 from the OLB, DE, or even DT positions. His value drops in the 3-4, but he should be able to produce right out of the gate.
53. Keshawn Martin, Texans WR Round 4
Martin is a scrappy pass catcher with underrated return skills. He has a knack for turning short passes into big gains, and gives the Texans a potential solution to their return-game woes.
54. Donta' Hightower, Patriots, SLB Round 1
The Patriots did something different this year by trading up instead of down. Chandler Jones will help rush the passer, and Hightower will clean up the mess at SLB.
55. Joe Adams, Panthers WR Round 4
He may be too inconsistant to be more than a no.3 or no.4 receiver, but he'll have value in the return game.
56. DeVier Posey, Texans WR Round 3
Posey's ability to stretch a defense gives him a chance to be a contributor, but he's not well rounded enough to be more than a no. 3. He's a bit of a developmental project and it looks as Andre Johnson may have a foot out the door with the drafting of Martin and Posey.
57. Greg Childs, Vikings WR Round 4
At this point he's not durable enough to ever start, but he's got some speed and if the knee holds up could be a nice outside receiver.
58. Marvin McNutt, Eagles WR Round 6
This is more about keeping Desean Jackson honest than it is about filling a team need. It completely ruins the value McNutt had pre-draft. If he makes the cut, he could be a long shot for a PPR target if the Eagles move some more receivers.
59. Orsen Charles, Bengals TE Round 4
He's got great hands and will be limited because of his blocking capabilities. No. 2 behind Gresham.
60. Randy Bullock, Texans PK Round 5
Bullock will compete for the starting job as the team's placekicker. He has been a consistent performer at Texas A&M, but will need to step up his game to be a productive pro.
61. Chandler Harnish, Colts QB Round 7
There's no guarantee Luck remains healthy the entire season, and if he goes down, Harnish has the ability to manage the offense and has great pocket presence. He's worth drafting in the deepest of leagues as a backup.
62. Brad Smelley, Browns TE Round 7
Smelley is a scrappy competitor capable of making contributions as receiver or blocker as a No. 2 tight end and special teamer.
63. Russell Wilson, Seahawks QB Round 3
GM John Schneider and coach Pete Carroll settled the team's biggest need by signing QB Matt Flynn. The combination of athleticism and arm will be enough to earn him a back-up role behind the back-up Travaris Jackson.
64. Chris Givens, Rams WR Round 4
A completely wasted pick, there's no way he's got a shot at making the roster. A vertical replacement for Mark Clayton, but a long shot.
65. Daryl Richardson, Rams RB Round 7
The Rams pick up a small-school standout to potentially alleviate some of the pressure off Steven Jackson in the running game. Richardson has displayed potential as runner, but will need to really step up his game to earn significant carries in St. Louis.

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Postby Defender » Tue May 01, 2012 8:25 pm

I would like to point out that Demaryius Thomas only did well when a non-quarterback threw him the ball (Tebow). He did very poorly receiving from a real QB (largely because the kid doesn't know how to run a route), and everyone will finally see that he is low-grade this season.

So, in my opinion, when you compared Hill to Thomas :sick: , you instantly made me want to draft Hill no higher than late 2nd round to early 3rd...
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Postby Defender » Tue May 01, 2012 8:59 pm

Why isn't Chris Rainey on this list? The man you quoted, Mike Mayock, said Rainey is on the same level as LaMicheal James (you rated at #15) and Iseah Pead (you have ranked #28). The thing is, you went on to say how is was unlikely for either of those 2 backs to see much playing time as they will need to unsuccessfully compete for the start. However, they is no starter at RB in Pittsburgh right now because Mendy is injured and Redman isn't all that. Furthermore, Todd Haley has expressed his eagerness to use the versatility of Rainey in his offensive system. Yet you have a RB who is #3 in St. Louis and a TE who is #2 in Cleveland ranked higher than Rainey... I have voiced my discontent.
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Postby nicaragua » Tue May 01, 2012 9:15 pm

found your Chris Givins/Brian Quick blurbs interesting. The Post-Dispatch is calling them the favorites to start, w/ Steve Smith fighting for playing time behind them, and Amendola not really being a factor as he's the slot guy.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football ... 07c35.html

Rotoworld's depth charts agree. but then again it's way early. lot of speculation and post-draft buzz lingering perhaps.

also have been hearing that Alshon Jeffery will start opposite Marshall

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Postby voiceofunreason » Wed May 02, 2012 10:15 pm

Ches wrote:I would like to point out that Demaryius Thomas only did well when a non-quarterback threw him the ball (Tebow). He did very poorly receiving from a real QB (largely because the kid doesn't know how to run a route), and everyone will finally see that he is low-grade this season.

So, in my opinion, when you compared Hill to Thomas :sick: , you instantly made me want to draft Hill no higher than late 2nd round to early 3rd...
I thought it had something to due with his achilles injury, etc. but, yes, he's going to do worse with a better qb. Can't argue with that logic.

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Postby Defender » Wed May 02, 2012 10:44 pm

Is that sarcasm? :think:
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