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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby saw061600 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:46 pm

"Upside" in general but "tremendous upside". Seriously, upside is something you feel, not quantifiable, stop using the word "upside".
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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby knotts4372 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:45 pm

this is more what some fantasy players call them rather than they call themselves i guess but im totally tired of hearing these writers referred to as "experts". wtf makes them more expert than a guy thats been doing dynasty leagues for years? i think a bunch of ppl on this site are as good or better than the lot of them.
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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:24 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
schiewerma21 wrote:In general.... the yearly overhyped young WRs who are zeros. Devante Parker, Kevin white, Michael Floyd, breshad perrimen.

Just because you were a first round pick doesn't mean your not a zero. And every year clowns put these guys as top 25-30 startup picks. It's absolute insanity. I want to know outside of dez and dt back in 2011.... someone give me an example since there (so 5 years now) of a high pick who was a turd as a rookie actually working out. Cause I can't think of one. And if you can, there are countless example of turds over guys who are actually good that it doesn't make sense to overvalue the crap out of these young WRs every offseason.
Brandon Marshall (1-year turd), Dez Bryant (1 year turd), Demaryius Thomas (2-year turd), Roddy White (2-year turd), Jordy Nelson (3-year turd). Possibly Allen Robinson depending on how the rest of his career turns out. I'm sure there is an even longer list but those are just the names off the top of my head.
45 catches for 561 yards and 6 TD's in 12 GP is hardly a turd. 48 grabs for 548 yards and 2 TD's in 10 games isn't either. Dez and A Robs first years weren't earth shattering, but there was plenty there to suggest that the next step up was coming.
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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Sat May 04, 2024 12:44 pm

I tried to find a good thread to put this in, and though it's not really something I wish writers would stop using; it is something I wish people would use correctly.

See, having "tread on your tires" is a good thing. It means you'll be able to drive on them for a while. In terms of our dynasty assets, we all want that, right? It's a good thing.

So how come so many people describe players as having "a lot of tread on their tires" when obviously what they really mean is "they've got a lot of wear" or "wear-and-tear" or "mileage"? Those are bad things as far as our dynasty assets are concerned. We do not want that.

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WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby BHSU » Sat May 04, 2024 1:24 pm

Shoreline Steamers wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 12:44 pm I tried to find a good thread to put this in, and though it's not really something I wish writers would stop using; it is something I wish people would use correctly.

See, having "tread on your tires" is a good thing. It means you'll be able to drive on them for a while. In terms of our dynasty assets, we all want that, right? It's a good thing.

So how come so many people describe players as having "a lot of tread on their tires" when obviously what they really mean is "they've got a lot of wear" or "wear-and-tear" or "mileage"? Those are bad things as far as our dynasty assets are concerned. We do not want that.

-end mini-rant- :wink:
Excellent point. Never thought of that before.

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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby BHSU » Sat May 04, 2024 1:26 pm

Kcarr wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:43 am Depends on what you would consider a "turd" but Nuk wasnt exactly a dominant fantasy producer as a rookie, one could argue Marquise Lee is making moves in that direction. Devante Adams has also flashed but he certainly hasnt become consistently good yet either. Kendall Wright started off weak and has had a fantasy relevant season since. That is really about all from this past 5 years but considering you can't really count 2015 in that, havent really even had a full 2nd year to break out, and once you take away first 2 round wrs who started off good, you are looking at a short list. If we are just talking about 1st round WRs we are talking about a list that if we don't count last year that list is Tavon, CPatt, AJ Jenkins, Michael Floyd, Jon Baldwin, and I suppose Blackmon though he had the best rookie season of any of these being discussed and his problems had less to do with on field play. Not exactly a huge sample size and a couple of those "failures" are still producing for their NFL teams.

Going back though, Michael Crabtree, Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, Fitz wasnt exactly great as a rookie, there are a few.
Whodda thought that guy who showed flashes but not consistently good stuff would become one of the top receivers in history

QB: Jordan Love/Dak Prescott/Aidan O'Connell

RB: Jonathan Taylor/Isaih Pacheco/Zamir White/Jonathan Brooks/Kendre Miller/Tyrone Tracy/Bucky Irving/Pierre Strong/Dylan Laube

WR: CeeDee Lamb/Brandon Aiyuk/Drake London/Brian Thomas JR/Ladd McConkey/Javon Baker/Dontayvion Wicks/Darius Slayton/Malik Washington/Greg Dortch/Cedric Tillman

TE: Trey McBride/Cole Kmet/Hunter Henry/Michael Mayer/Jelani Woods/Erick All

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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Sat May 04, 2024 2:47 pm

BHSU wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 1:26 pm
Kcarr wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:43 am Depends on what you would consider a "turd" but Nuk wasnt exactly a dominant fantasy producer as a rookie, one could argue Marquise Lee is making moves in that direction. Devante Adams has also flashed but he certainly hasnt become consistently good yet either. Kendall Wright started off weak and has had a fantasy relevant season since. That is really about all from this past 5 years but considering you can't really count 2015 in that, havent really even had a full 2nd year to break out, and once you take away first 2 round wrs who started off good, you are looking at a short list. If we are just talking about 1st round WRs we are talking about a list that if we don't count last year that list is Tavon, CPatt, AJ Jenkins, Michael Floyd, Jon Baldwin, and I suppose Blackmon though he had the best rookie season of any of these being discussed and his problems had less to do with on field play. Not exactly a huge sample size and a couple of those "failures" are still producing for their NFL teams.

Going back though, Michael Crabtree, Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, Fitz wasnt exactly great as a rookie, there are a few.
Whodda thought that guy who showed flashes but not consistently good stuff would become one of the top receivers in history
:lol: Yeah, it's an old thread. And sometimes you see some amusing takes once they've aged to perfection in these dinosaurs of DLF forum history.
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WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby Hankybro21 » Sat May 04, 2024 2:57 pm

Oh damn...Coogan Football
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Q: Allen, Lamar
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Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
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2025: 1st (early), 1st (early), 1st (mid)

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Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, MHJ, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Brooks, Ekeler
T: Andrews, Granson

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Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle

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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby BHSU » Sat May 04, 2024 2:59 pm

Shoreline Steamers wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 2:47 pm
BHSU wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 1:26 pm
Kcarr wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:43 am Depends on what you would consider a "turd" but Nuk wasnt exactly a dominant fantasy producer as a rookie, one could argue Marquise Lee is making moves in that direction. Devante Adams has also flashed but he certainly hasnt become consistently good yet either. Kendall Wright started off weak and has had a fantasy relevant season since. That is really about all from this past 5 years but considering you can't really count 2015 in that, havent really even had a full 2nd year to break out, and once you take away first 2 round wrs who started off good, you are looking at a short list. If we are just talking about 1st round WRs we are talking about a list that if we don't count last year that list is Tavon, CPatt, AJ Jenkins, Michael Floyd, Jon Baldwin, and I suppose Blackmon though he had the best rookie season of any of these being discussed and his problems had less to do with on field play. Not exactly a huge sample size and a couple of those "failures" are still producing for their NFL teams.

Going back though, Michael Crabtree, Calvin Johnson, Jordy Nelson, Fitz wasnt exactly great as a rookie, there are a few.
Whodda thought that guy who showed flashes but not consistently good stuff would become one of the top receivers in history
:lol: Yeah, it's an old thread. And sometimes you see some amusing takes once they've aged to perfection in these dinosaurs of DLF forum history.
I love going back and reading old threads to see what thoughts were on certain guys

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RB: Jonathan Taylor/Isaih Pacheco/Zamir White/Jonathan Brooks/Kendre Miller/Tyrone Tracy/Bucky Irving/Pierre Strong/Dylan Laube

WR: CeeDee Lamb/Brandon Aiyuk/Drake London/Brian Thomas JR/Ladd McConkey/Javon Baker/Dontayvion Wicks/Darius Slayton/Malik Washington/Greg Dortch/Cedric Tillman

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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby TheTroll » Sat May 04, 2024 3:17 pm

saw061600 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:46 pm "Upside" in general but "tremendous upside". Seriously, upside is something you feel, not quantifiable, stop using the word "upside".
Danger… you mean Grave Danger…. Is their another kind?
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RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
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TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby BHSU » Sat May 04, 2024 3:40 pm

TheTroll wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 3:17 pm
saw061600 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:46 pm "Upside" in general but "tremendous upside". Seriously, upside is something you feel, not quantifiable, stop using the word "upside".
Danger… you mean Grave Danger…. Is their another kind?
Haha responding to a post that's from 8 years ago... But at least the person you responded to is still an active member here!

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WR: CeeDee Lamb/Brandon Aiyuk/Drake London/Brian Thomas JR/Ladd McConkey/Javon Baker/Dontayvion Wicks/Darius Slayton/Malik Washington/Greg Dortch/Cedric Tillman

TE: Trey McBride/Cole Kmet/Hunter Henry/Michael Mayer/Jelani Woods/Erick All

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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby MacDaddy123 » Sat May 04, 2024 11:11 pm

"Generational"

Tired of seeing 5 generational players coming out in the draft every single year

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Postby BabyChark23 » Sat May 04, 2024 11:51 pm

MacDaddy123 wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 11:11 pm "Generational"

Tired of seeing 5 generational players coming out in the draft every single year
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Re: Terms you wish fantasy writers would stop using so often

Postby thunderTung » Sat May 04, 2024 11:57 pm

MacDaddy123 wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 11:11 pm "Generational"

Tired of seeing 5 generational players coming out in the draft every single year
I know what you mean, can we just get a new word for prospects that come around every 5-10 years? Like obviously some guys will stand out over other prospects in other draft classes (Chase, Bijan, MHJ, etc.) But generational should be reserved for guys like Luck, Manning, Bedard, Ohtani. (yes I stole from other sports)
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WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
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K: Mcpherson
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