Trade Mayer for a Defense?

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Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby CreativeName » Wed May 01, 2024 8:06 am

Didn't update the signatures as drafts are still going on. Below is one team that I feel is stacked but bleep at D. Would it be dumb to trade Michael Mayer for a defense. Another owner has both Dallas and SF which theoretically should be top 5.

Herbert, Justin LAC
McCarthy, J.J. MIN
Stroud, C.J. HOU

Cook, James BUF
Gibbs, Jahmyr DET
Pacheco, Isiah KCC
White, Rachaad TBB
White, Zamir LVR
Williams, Kyren LAR

Addison, Jordan MIN
Coleman, Keon BUF
Dotson, Jahan WAS
Flowers, Zay BAL
McConkey, Ladd LAC
Pearsall, Ricky SFO
Reed, Jayden GBP
St. Brown, Amon-Ra DET
Watson, Christian GBP
Wilson, Garrett NYJ

Kincaid, Dalton BUF
Kraft, Tucker GBP
Mayer, Michael LVR
McBride, Trey ARI

Elliott, Jake PHI

Jaguars, Jacksonville Def
12 Team/PPR - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/Flex/K/DEF (Same format for all teams)
Team 1
QB Herbert, Stroud, McCarthy
RB Kyren, Gibbs, J. Cook, Pacheco, R. White, Z. White
WR St. Brown, G. Wilson, Reed, Addison, Flowers, Watson, Dotson, Coleman, McConkey, Pearsall
TE Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Kraft
K Elliot
DEF JAGS
2025 2-1sts, 1-2nds, 3-3rds

Team 2
QB Stroud, Dak, Tua
RB Taylor, Kyren, J. Cook, Brian Robinson, Harris, Benson, Bigsby
WR Deebo, Ridley, Dell, Diontae, Roman Wilson, Legette, Hyatt, Reynolds, McMillan, Lazard, Zay
TE Goedert, Mayer, Sinnott, Sanders, Dulcich, Everett
K Myers
DEF Bears
2025 3-1sts, 5-2nds, 3-3rds

Team 3
QB Herbert, Stafford, Young
RB Kyren, Tayolor, Robinson, Pacheco, Dillon, K. Miller
WR Pittmap, Nabers, J. Williams, Coleman, McConkey, E. Moore, Slayton, Palmer, P. Washington, Hyatt, Atwell, Iosivas, Tillman
TE Kelce, Ferguson, Kraft, Everett
K McManus
DEF PIT
2025 2-1sts, 1-2nds, 1-3rds

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Re: Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby Mtt33 » Wed May 01, 2024 8:12 am

Is it a normal league where most people have 1 defense and a few have 2? Would rather just stream them personally if so.

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Re: Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby CreativeName » Wed May 01, 2024 8:25 am

Negative. Only 3 teams have 1 Def., 6 have 2, 2 have 3 and 1 has 4.
While its obviously early and there will be cuts, the only Defs. currently on the waviers are Denver, Arizona, Charges, Giants, New England, Rams, Houston
12 Team/PPR - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/Flex/K/DEF (Same format for all teams)
Team 1
QB Herbert, Stroud, McCarthy
RB Kyren, Gibbs, J. Cook, Pacheco, R. White, Z. White
WR St. Brown, G. Wilson, Reed, Addison, Flowers, Watson, Dotson, Coleman, McConkey, Pearsall
TE Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Kraft
K Elliot
DEF JAGS
2025 2-1sts, 1-2nds, 3-3rds

Team 2
QB Stroud, Dak, Tua
RB Taylor, Kyren, J. Cook, Brian Robinson, Harris, Benson, Bigsby
WR Deebo, Ridley, Dell, Diontae, Roman Wilson, Legette, Hyatt, Reynolds, McMillan, Lazard, Zay
TE Goedert, Mayer, Sinnott, Sanders, Dulcich, Everett
K Myers
DEF Bears
2025 3-1sts, 5-2nds, 3-3rds

Team 3
QB Herbert, Stafford, Young
RB Kyren, Tayolor, Robinson, Pacheco, Dillon, K. Miller
WR Pittmap, Nabers, J. Williams, Coleman, McConkey, E. Moore, Slayton, Palmer, P. Washington, Hyatt, Atwell, Iosivas, Tillman
TE Kelce, Ferguson, Kraft, Everett
K McManus
DEF PIT
2025 2-1sts, 1-2nds, 1-3rds

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Re: Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby Viking386 » Wed May 01, 2024 8:31 am

CreativeName wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:25 am Negative. Only 3 teams have 1 Def., 6 have 2, 2 have 3 and 1 has 4.
While its obviously early and there will be cuts, the only Defs. currently on the waviers are Denver, Arizona, Charges, Giants, New England, Rams, Houston
This is wild lol

But no I would just live off waivers.
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12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold
RB: Nobody worth mentioning
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, Tre Tucker, Bell, Austin,
TE: McBride and Dulcich

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-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

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Re: Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby CreativeName » Wed May 01, 2024 8:36 am

Viking386 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:31 am
CreativeName wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:25 am Negative. Only 3 teams have 1 Def., 6 have 2, 2 have 3 and 1 has 4.
While its obviously early and there will be cuts, the only Defs. currently on the waviers are Denver, Arizona, Charges, Giants, New England, Rams, Houston
This is wild lol

But no I would just live off waivers.
Very. Why tf anyone need 4 defenses.....
12 Team/PPR - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/Flex/K/DEF (Same format for all teams)
Team 1
QB Herbert, Stroud, McCarthy
RB Kyren, Gibbs, J. Cook, Pacheco, R. White, Z. White
WR St. Brown, G. Wilson, Reed, Addison, Flowers, Watson, Dotson, Coleman, McConkey, Pearsall
TE Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Kraft
K Elliot
DEF JAGS
2025 2-1sts, 1-2nds, 3-3rds

Team 2
QB Stroud, Dak, Tua
RB Taylor, Kyren, J. Cook, Brian Robinson, Harris, Benson, Bigsby
WR Deebo, Ridley, Dell, Diontae, Roman Wilson, Legette, Hyatt, Reynolds, McMillan, Lazard, Zay
TE Goedert, Mayer, Sinnott, Sanders, Dulcich, Everett
K Myers
DEF Bears
2025 3-1sts, 5-2nds, 3-3rds

Team 3
QB Herbert, Stafford, Young
RB Kyren, Tayolor, Robinson, Pacheco, Dillon, K. Miller
WR Pittmap, Nabers, J. Williams, Coleman, McConkey, E. Moore, Slayton, Palmer, P. Washington, Hyatt, Atwell, Iosivas, Tillman
TE Kelce, Ferguson, Kraft, Everett
K McManus
DEF PIT
2025 2-1sts, 1-2nds, 1-3rds

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Re: Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby Easy Breesy » Wed May 01, 2024 8:37 am

I’d hold Mayer raiders I feel we’ll go 2 TE a lot
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas

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Re: Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby moishetreats » Wed May 01, 2024 11:04 am

It also depends on the scoring system for Defenses. If they get a real bump, then it makes sense to me.

It's hard to see Mayer ever becoming a player who's going to be a top-tier TE. Which means is realistic ceiling is second tier, and that's often close to replacement-level in leagues with standard TE scoring. And same logic applies here: don't really need 4 TEs. In this case, you might be losing on value. But you're trading a player who (a) has minimal value anyway and (b) will probably never see your lineup for a legit weekly points boost at another position.

I don't play in leagues with defenses, so I don't if either D that you're getting is a real upgrade. If it is, though, then I'd sign on off on this trade.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Mitchell ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), E Moore ('25), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $102

IR: --
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Re: Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby TheTroll » Wed May 01, 2024 3:39 pm

Viking386 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:31 am
CreativeName wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:25 am Negative. Only 3 teams have 1 Def., 6 have 2, 2 have 3 and 1 has 4.
While its obviously early and there will be cuts, the only Defs. currently on the waviers are Denver, Arizona, Charges, Giants, New England, Rams, Houston
This is wild lol

But no I would just live off waivers.
This. Truth be told no one can predict defenses in FF. You live off of TOs and Sacks basically. The DEF could give up 500 yards a game and still be #1 in FF points.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Trade Mayer for a Defense?

Postby SoftwoodGrampian » Wed May 01, 2024 4:25 pm

He’s a dead asset so if you can land the top scoring d yea


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