1.10 = What QB (SF)

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1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby tstafford » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:47 am

Curious to see what folks think on this one.

In SF, what veteran QBs would you think are of approximately equal value to the ~1.10 in a 12-team SF?

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby abloom » Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:57 am

All guaranteed 2024 starters are worth atleast the 1.10. off the top of my head that would probably make Geno the cutoff. QBs like Daniel Jones would fall into this category post nfl draft assuming nyg don't draft a QB in the first.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby TheTroll » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:00 am

I would add, mayfield or stafford too.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby abloom » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:03 am

TheTroll wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:00 am I would add, mayfield or stafford too.
I would definitely have those guys ahead of Geno.

Kirk and Rodgers would be guys right on that line too just due to injury. But I think both I'd be willing to pay the 1.10 as a contender
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:12 am

Cousins?
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby abloom » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:15 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:12 am Cousins?
That's who I was referring to as Kirk above. I'd pay the 1.10 for him as a contender.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009

Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby Mtt33 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:24 am

Wouldn’t pay the 1.10 for geno, no thanks.
This is very dependent on league from my experience. In a few of my leagues that have multiple rebuilders, older qbs can be had cheaper than 1.10 from rebuilding teams. Typically In newer leagues that aren’t lopsided yet, the market isn’t as easy to crack because most teams have hopes to compete.

In a vacuum I’d say guys like cousins, Stafford on the old end, maybe Bryce and Levis on the young end.

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby Anteaters » Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:27 am

tstafford wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:47 amIn SF, what veteran QBs would you think are of approximately equal value to the ~1.10 in a 12-team SF?
Tough call. Off the top of my head without too much thought ...

Baker, Fields, Levis, Stafford, Cousins, Bryce, Geno, Russ
Maybes include DJones, Bryce

This regards what I which QBs I would be okay accepting the 1.10 in return for. On the flip side, if I had a contender SF team that needed a QB, I would be happy paying the 1.10 to acquire all those except Levis/Fields.

Aaron Rodgers is a lot lower for me.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:57 pm

abloom wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:15 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:12 am Cousins?
That's who I was referring to as Kirk above. I'd pay the 1.10 for him as a contender.
Ah missed that. But yes, I'm in agreement. He's got a few years left in him, hopefully. I've been battling with a guy trying to trade him Cousins for the 1.11 but he wants to give me the 2.03. We're not that far apart—four picks. Most SF teams won't give up a young, elite QB for this, so you're going to have to target an older vet, most likely.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby tstafford » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:33 pm

Great stuff. Thanks all.

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:53 pm

Did a quick glance at KTC, too. 4787 for the 1.10. So here are a few more names.

Tua Tagovailoa 5545
Jared Goff 4919
J.J. McCarthy 4692
Bryce Young 4523
Kirk Cousins 4327
Baker Mayfield 4165
Deshaun Watson 3982

So that's an interesting range.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby tstafford » Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:05 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:53 pm Did a quick glance at KTC, too. 4787 for the 1.10. So here are a few more names.

Tua Tagovailoa 5545
Jared Goff 4919
J.J. McCarthy 4692
Bryce Young 4523
Kirk Cousins 4327
Baker Mayfield 4165
Deshaun Watson 3982

So that's an interesting range.
I put zero faith in trade calculators and about the same in KTC. However that looks about right to me. Maybe slightly too low on JJM - I bet he's usually gone by the 1.10. And I'm surprised that Watson is that low in value. I'm glad, but surprised.

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Re: 1.10 = What QB (SF)

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:28 pm

tstafford wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:05 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:53 pm Did a quick glance at KTC, too. 4787 for the 1.10. So here are a few more names.

Tua Tagovailoa 5545
Jared Goff 4919
J.J. McCarthy 4692
Bryce Young 4523
Kirk Cousins 4327
Baker Mayfield 4165
Deshaun Watson 3982

So that's an interesting range.
I put zero faith in trade calculators and about the same in KTC. However that looks about right to me. Maybe slightly too low on JJM - I bet he's usually gone by the 1.10. And I'm surprised that Watson is that low in value. I'm glad, but surprised.
Yeah, FWIW, just thought it was interesting that Cousins was right there in the range I was thinking so...it's date. Do with it what you will LOL.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, Rodriguez, Spiller WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Myers, Reynold, Jones TE—Kmet, Likely, Kraft, Conklin, Hurst, Hudson PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: DJM, Higgins, JSN, Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Devante, CJones TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble


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