I see. I probably missed the nuances as this thread is a bit TLDR.Anteaters wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:21 amIt is.tstafford wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:02 amIsn't this more or less how most people see Tua? I have him on both an SF and 1QB team and see him as a solid QB2. I'd prefer not to start him in 1QB but will on bye weeks, injury or a particularly juicy match-up. In SF, he's obviously a lock and load every week starter for most managers. DLF ranks him as QB13 and aside from Purdy, there's no one after him that I'd consider taking over him. Watson, Fields, Young, Goff, etc. It's simple - there's no upside because he doesn't rush but there's a decent floor because of the offense/team around him.frerichs5 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 5:32 pm
I’m not following you at all. I’m not making any long term decisions on anyone playing two games a year. I’m talking about Tua.
The way I look at it, 3 of 4 years, Tua has been a mid QB2 or worse. Would I take him before someone that plays a handful of games a year? Obviously. But it makes no sense to me to value super highly when there are Joe Flacco’s of the world who may pop up and outscore him for a couple months…or Jake Browning scoring the same. It just means he’s more easily replaceable.
Obviously Tua has value as a full time starter. How much value to place in him is the real question, and everyone’s answer is likely different.
When people bring Joe Flacco into a discussion about Tua, it's kind of hard for me to know where to go next without feeling like I'm on an episode of Candid Camera or Punk'd. Hey, I'm the biggest Flacco fan around and have had his back since way back when people were saying he didn't earn his superbowl victory.
But in 2024, Flacco doesn't have a starting job in the NFL, and he didn't go into 2023 with one either. I understand the comparison was not only Flacco, but any random backup QB who might luck into a starting role for three or six games in any given season. To compare Tua to a player like that seems wild. But that is where a lot of people seemingly put Tua's value. As if they'd rather go into a season with a combination of Dobbs/Flacco/Minshew/Tyrod rather than Tua. Or others who say they'd rather have an opportunity to draft the 4th or 5th rookie QB rather than hold Tua.
And I'm cool with that. I have a different valuation of Tua, but everyone is entitled to formulate their own valuation. Not taking a dig at freirich5. Just truly befuddled by the mid-scale Tua devaluation.
I suppose people can play the game anyway they want. But there's no way I'm going in the a season in SF and trying to cobble my QB2 together with the likes of Dobbs/Minshew/etc. over just rostering Tua. As to the rookies, I'm taking CW or Daniels over Tua because of value and upside. But after that, I'd stick with Tua. Might miss on Maye that way, but I'm okay with that.