New Offer, 1.08 for 25 1st

[BabyChark23]

If it’s actually early, this is a bad move imo. How certain are you that it’s early?

IDK. Take a look at my roster, what do you think?
I lost Cousins last year, and we do potential points for 7th-12th.
So I think I'm probably middle of the pack.

So if this team improves, it could be 24 1.08 for 2025 1.06 + 24 2.04.
1.08 is right where I see the drop-off this year, at about 1.09.

Thoughts?

Even if you project it at 1.06 next year, I still don’t like it. This seems like rookie fever to me.

[SoftwoodGrampian]

Crazy how much guessing there is on this one. Future first is a future first.. not the 1.6, 1.2, 1.12 or any other quantifiable indicator.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

It’s a bad deal. Easy pass.

It’s 8 picks up…

Yeah, as good as the top 8 looks, you’re basically throwing away the 2.04.

[wickerkat1212]

I would not do it for the early first without adding the 2md.

You're saying you wouldn't move the 1.08 for the 25 1st (early) without getting the 2.04? Yeah, that's where I'm a bit apart from the guy offering the pick. I'm going to try to see if he'll do it for a future 3rd instead of the 2.04.

[Gazzerk]

I’m sure it’s not what you want to hear but this is the cost of making this kind of move. The 2.04 is a little earlier than maybe it should be but nobody is moving a decent first this year for a random first next year without something that’s going to make it worth it. I do agree that moving back 8 spots is probably not worth it. It all depends on your tiers and how you see these prospects.

The drop from 1.08 to 2.04 could be multiple tiers and while someone can sit here and say they’ll get a great prospect at 2.04, yeah maybe, but the actual likelihood is that you miss by a mile. The odds of hitting get drastically worse from a pick like 1.08 to 2.04. However, this draft does have a pretty clear line of “top prospects” and the only reason 1.08 holds any real value right now is because everyone is trying to shoehorn McCarthy into the mix and I just don’t think he’s that guy. I’ve watched a ton of Michigan football. He did his job for that team and that’s about it. He’s not special. How will you feel if you make this move then the NFL draft comes and McCarthy doesn’t get drafted the way you think he will?

If you really want to make a deal like this, I would be sending the 25 1st and the 2.04 to the owners of 1.01-1.05 and stopping there. I’d give that package to get into that top 5 but nothing past that.

[Jrblaha]

I’m sure it’s not what you want to hear but this is the cost of making this kind of move. The 2.04 is a little earlier than maybe it should be but nobody is moving a decent first this year for a random first next year without something that’s going to make it worth it. I do agree that moving back 8 spots is probably not worth it. It all depends on your tiers and how you see these prospects.

The drop from 1.08 to 2.04 could be multiple tiers and while someone can sit here and say they’ll get a great prospect at 2.04, yeah maybe, but the actual likelihood is that you miss by a mile. The odds of hitting get drastically worse from a pick like 1.08 to 2.04. However, this draft does have a pretty clear line of “top prospects” and the only reason 1.08 holds any real value right now is because everyone is trying to shoehorn McCarthy into the mix and I just don’t think he’s that guy. I’ve watched a ton of Michigan football. He did his job for that team and that’s about it. He’s not special. How will you feel if you make this move then the NFL draft comes and McCarthy doesn’t get drafted the way you think he will?

If you really want to make a deal like this, I would be sending the 25 1st and the 2.04 to the owners of 1.01-1.05 and stopping there. I’d give that package to get into that top 5 but nothing past that.

Jj made some of best throws I’ve seen in college football last year. quantity wasn’t there, but upside is huge and real imo. And I think we’ll see the nfl agrees by giving him solid draft capital. If they don’t, I’d change my mind.

Regardless, no one is sending 1.01-1.05 SF pick this year for a future 1st and 2.04.

[wickerkat1212]

I’m sure it’s not what you want to hear but this is the cost of making this kind of move. The 2.04 is a little earlier than maybe it should be but nobody is moving a decent first this year for a random first next year without something that’s going to make it worth it. I do agree that moving back 8 spots is probably not worth it. It all depends on your tiers and how you see these prospects.

The drop from 1.08 to 2.04 could be multiple tiers and while someone can sit here and say they’ll get a great prospect at 2.04, yeah maybe, but the actual likelihood is that you miss by a mile. The odds of hitting get drastically worse from a pick like 1.08 to 2.04. However, this draft does have a pretty clear line of “top prospects” and the only reason 1.08 holds any real value right now is because everyone is trying to shoehorn McCarthy into the mix and I just don’t think he’s that guy. I’ve watched a ton of Michigan football. He did his job for that team and that’s about it. He’s not special. How will you feel if you make this move then the NFL draft comes and McCarthy doesn’t get drafted the way you think he will?

If you really want to make a deal like this, I would be sending the 25 1st and the 2.04 to the owners of 1.01-1.05 and stopping there. I’d give that package to get into that top 5 but nothing past that.

Agree. If I was going to give up the 2.04 I'd want higher than 1.08. 4-5 range. And since I need a lot of players I may be better off just staying where I am. Whatever my pick is next year—1.02, 1.04, 1.06—there will be good players there IMO.

[Tyrober]

Do not get cute giving up good picks for the 1.08. Be patient

[wickerkat1212]

Do not get cute giving up good picks for the 1.08. Be patient

Yeah, there are like 7-8 guys I REALLY like in this draft. I was willing to do it for 25 1st, and a BIT more but not the 2.04. This year I feel like there are a LOT of guys (6 QBs, 10-15 WRs, a few TEs) that I really like. I was hoping I could get a top 8 pick this year for just a 25 1st, but no luck. You never know. This league they are pretty savvy. Some of my leagues, there are some guys that really don't pay attention or care that much LOL.

[Black Adam]

I was hoping I could get a top 8 pick this year for just a 25 1st, but no luck. You never know.

I’m sure it’s not what you want to hear but this is the cost of making this kind of move. The 2.04 is a little earlier than maybe it should be but nobody is moving a decent first this year for a random first next year without something that’s going to make it worth it. I do agree that moving back 8 spots is probably not worth it. It all depends on your tiers and how you see these prospects.

We told you nobody was moving out of the 1.08 this year for a 2025 1st.

[Gazzerk]

I’m sure it’s not what you want to hear but this is the cost of making this kind of move. The 2.04 is a little earlier than maybe it should be but nobody is moving a decent first this year for a random first next year without something that’s going to make it worth it. I do agree that moving back 8 spots is probably not worth it. It all depends on your tiers and how you see these prospects.

The drop from 1.08 to 2.04 could be multiple tiers and while someone can sit here and say they’ll get a great prospect at 2.04, yeah maybe, but the actual likelihood is that you miss by a mile. The odds of hitting get drastically worse from a pick like 1.08 to 2.04. However, this draft does have a pretty clear line of “top prospects” and the only reason 1.08 holds any real value right now is because everyone is trying to shoehorn McCarthy into the mix and I just don’t think he’s that guy. I’ve watched a ton of Michigan football. He did his job for that team and that’s about it. He’s not special. How will you feel if you make this move then the NFL draft comes and McCarthy doesn’t get drafted the way you think he will?

If you really want to make a deal like this, I would be sending the 25 1st and the 2.04 to the owners of 1.01-1.05 and stopping there. I’d give that package to get into that top 5 but nothing past that.

Jj made some of best throws I’ve seen in college football last year. quantity wasn’t there, but upside is huge and real imo. And I think we’ll see the nfl agrees by giving him solid draft capital. If they don’t, I’d change my mind.

Regardless, no one is sending 1.01-1.05 SF pick this year for a future 1st and 2.04.

He definitely made good throws. I don’t mean to say he is bad. I just don’t know if he’s special or has the upside that the other 3 have. Kenny Pickett made some unbelievable throws and yet here we are. I like McCarthy and I hope he gets good draft capital. I just don’t think he’s worth sending this kind of package to gain access to drafting him. Maybe after draft day he will be.

[wickerkat1212]

I was hoping I could get a top 8 pick this year for just a 25 1st, but no luck. You never know.

I’m sure it’s not what you want to hear but this is the cost of making this kind of move. The 2.04 is a little earlier than maybe it should be but nobody is moving a decent first this year for a random first next year without something that’s going to make it worth it. I do agree that moving back 8 spots is probably not worth it. It all depends on your tiers and how you see these prospects.

We told you nobody was moving out of the 1.08 this year for a 2025 1st.

Hey, nothing wrong with taking a shot, right? It only takes one. I traded the 1.08 pick three years ago for Kelce straight up. You never know how somebody values a player or pick until you make the offer.

[Jrblaha]

I’m sure it’s not what you want to hear but this is the cost of making this kind of move. The 2.04 is a little earlier than maybe it should be but nobody is moving a decent first this year for a random first next year without something that’s going to make it worth it. I do agree that moving back 8 spots is probably not worth it. It all depends on your tiers and how you see these prospects.

The drop from 1.08 to 2.04 could be multiple tiers and while someone can sit here and say they’ll get a great prospect at 2.04, yeah maybe, but the actual likelihood is that you miss by a mile. The odds of hitting get drastically worse from a pick like 1.08 to 2.04. However, this draft does have a pretty clear line of “top prospects” and the only reason 1.08 holds any real value right now is because everyone is trying to shoehorn McCarthy into the mix and I just don’t think he’s that guy. I’ve watched a ton of Michigan football. He did his job for that team and that’s about it. He’s not special. How will you feel if you make this move then the NFL draft comes and McCarthy doesn’t get drafted the way you think he will?

If you really want to make a deal like this, I would be sending the 25 1st and the 2.04 to the owners of 1.01-1.05 and stopping there. I’d give that package to get into that top 5 but nothing past that.

Jj made some of best throws I’ve seen in college football last year. quantity wasn’t there, but upside is huge and real imo. And I think we’ll see the nfl agrees by giving him solid draft capital. If they don’t, I’d change my mind.

Regardless, no one is sending 1.01-1.05 SF pick this year for a future 1st and 2.04.

He definitely made good throws. I don’t mean to say he is bad. I just don’t know if he’s special or has the upside that the other 3 have. Kenny Pickett made some unbelievable throws and yet here we are. I like McCarthy and I hope he gets good draft capital. I just don’t think he’s worth sending this kind of package to gain access to drafting him. Maybe after draft day he will be.

I think he’s special, and wins lots of games, but I can’t say for sure yet. Could very easily turn out that I’m wrong and you’re right and he’s not elite. I’m with ya on the trade tho, I wouldn’t send this for that either

[Mtt33]

Crazy how much guessing there is on this one. Future first is a future first.. not the 1.6, 1.2, 1.12 or any other quantifiable indicator.

So all 2025 1sts are equal value to you? The stacked win now team and the bad rebuild team’s first are worth the same if you are trading for them? Not necessarily saying that’s a wrong approach but I for sure factor in team strength (and assets to turn a team into win now) when evaluating a next year first. Obviously it’s projection nobody is saying it’s the 1.02.

[SoftwoodGrampian]

Crazy how much guessing there is on this one. Future first is a future first.. not the 1.6, 1.2, 1.12 or any other quantifiable indicator.

So all 2025 1sts are equal value to you? The stacked win now team and the bad rebuild team’s first are worth the same if you are trading for them? Not necessarily saying that’s a wrong approach but I for sure factor in team strength (and assets to turn a team into win now) when evaluating a next year first. Obviously it’s projection nobody is saying it’s the 1.02.

Of course, when a team is obviously poor or obviously strong then there can be indicators there. But most teams look OK on paper w the depth of role players greater now than ever. Wouldn’t make wholesale moves based on the projection.